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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:41 PM
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:54 PM
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1. Love the colors and the texture.
Maybe a little bit more depth of field to get all the rim in focus?
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:08 PM
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3. Wow Joe, I'm looking but I can't find the unfocused spot or gap.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 08:09 PM by Mira
All I see is an extremely unusual and signature type photo.
If the ophthalmologist who recently checked my eyes messed up can I get my money back?
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:57 PM
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4. The three closest net hooks are very blurred.
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 06:01 PM by ManiacJoe
The one on each side of those is also noticeably blurred, but not so much.

The in-focus zone seem to run from about the near side of the mounting bracket to almost the far side of the backboard. The far side of the rim is about in the center of it.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 07:29 PM
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5. Oh, you wanted the components to be predictable to what you think it should look like,
I get it now. Just between us, should WJMS want them all in a same focus, he knows how to do it. It looked really good and right to me the way he chose to shoot this one.

Have I seen your photos and missed them? I'll surely look for them and study how you do things.
I'm always keeping my eyes open to learn.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 08:07 PM
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6. There is no right and wrong, just different.
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 08:10 PM by ManiacJoe
You are correct in that he is a capable photographer. He is also human and thus capable of making a mistake, even one that looks good. The half blurred rim might be on purpose, and it might be mistakenly caused by trusting the auto-focus system to guess at the "correct" target.

It is certainly a well done shot as is. I offer an alternative composition that may or may not be "better", for whatever definition of "better" the photographer and/or viewers might be using. It sparks debate and helps others learn.

You seem to like the shot as much as I do. I just happen to be a bit more specific in my observations.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:24 PM
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7. I've been here a year and have observed the following main unspoken rules
while I was still looking around this new forum, not posting much, keeping my eyes open and my mouth mostly shut:

Unless the photographer asks there is no custom here of detailed criticism extended, constructive or not.
It is not what we do.

If something I post gets no responses over time and a good number of views then I assume that it did not appeal much or that they don't find anything really positive about it. The way my photographer friends express it is they stay quiet.
I learned a whole lot from those silences, and still do, I examine what may be the problem, I cannot tell you the peace of mind I have posting something knowing I will not have to worry about anything jarring to come my way.

Had someone I don't know very well jumped in and started to input critical opinion when it was not asked for, it would be against the behavior I have become accustomed to and it would bring in a sour note.

This forum is congenial, and a quiet happy place for us visually pre-occupied ones to get together.
We like it as a refuge from the rest of our day, an oasis of enjoying our common passion, and touching base with friends.

Whenever a critique is asked for, everyone jumps to answer the call.
And we get it, sometimes more than we want, and nobody hesitates.

This response is the one I should have made in the beginning, and if anyone reads this and thinks I have misread the purpose of this forum, and am overstepping in my observation, correct me. I still feel "new" and don't want to rock any boat.
I like it here.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:42 PM
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13. Your impression of the forum seems reasonable.
The downside to "unwritten rules" is that they help no one.

If someone shares a picture, they are looking for comments. If they don't explicitly ask for detailed critique, they shouldn't get one. Hopefully no one wrongly interprets my original post as that. A viewer may respond with "nice picture", but a far better response would include what he liked about it.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 04:26 PM
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14. oh, everyone has a different style of response
Mine are generally pretty short and to the point. I agree with you that part of the rim is not in focus, but, uh, I actually like that. But, that is just me.

:shrug:

The light in this is awesome.

I don't think any of our responses or non responses have to conform to any sort of norm. And, if nobody responds to my pictures, I figure at least some people might like them anyway, and be keeping quiet. I don't attempt to read anything into it.

People are almost always polite here, which I appreciate.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 07:36 PM
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2. Very interesting, Wanna Jump, and it has your name all over it.
The light is that gorgeous fall light Johnny Noshoes describes so sensitively in my post about "hope for the East Coast". Applies to this even more than mine.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:55 PM
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8. my focus was more on the
light on the backboard, and not paying much attention to the rim.

I just finished a basketball book, and I was surprised that pros don't look at the rim or the net, but the backboard. I guess that makes sense, for the ball has to move smoothly off it.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 11:03 PM
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9. All previous communication about focus put aside for this comment:
Now that I am studying the "focus" issue on this shot again, the fact that the screws that hold the rim to the board are dead sharp is what REALLY makes the shot for me, it was subliminal before, now I have some clear understanding.

My original affinity for it lies in those tight screws.
And the comment by ManiacJoe brought it to light.

There is no net.
There is no need for the hooks on the rim.
But there, by God, is a need for the rim to be tight, so the kids, probably having no other recreation, can play.

So, in all this controversy, for me the purpose of this photograph has been discovered.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 11:39 PM
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10. The grain of the wood
seen in that light is like a painting. I like the way it flows. :)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:17 AM
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11. "Go towards the light"....
The light and colors please me very much. Very fall-ish.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:26 PM
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12. The backboard makes the picture.
The color flows nicely from light to dark back to light in the background. The grain keeps the organic feel with the post and the background color. The in-focus bolts tie it all together.
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