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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:18 PM
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The Big Dog Still Surprises Me
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 01:37 PM by PurgedVoter
Clinton shows what makes a great man. Here is a man with obvious pride, who is able to confess to sin. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032001329.html He confessed that his policies decimated Haiti. It is a pity that none of the Republicans seriously, no exaggeration here, are able to do this. It is a pity that the Pope cannot do this. It is a sorrow that so many religious leaders cannot do this. It is a sorrow when anyone who leads cannot examine themselves and admit to failures in philosophy, policy, and action.

Bill Clinton, bless his soul, just demonstrated, clearly, that light can still reach the core of his being. That I respect.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:23 PM
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1. I did not always agree with Bill Clinton but I always respected him, and absolutely no one can top
him in speech making or charisima.He is not a perfect man but I think he is real and has become a better person since leaving office.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:57 PM
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4. I agree, but I disagree...
I agree that I did not always agree with Big Bill. I do respect him in most avenues he has traveled.

But
"absolutely no one can top him in speech making or charisima."

I think Regan was a bit better. I hated what he had to say most of the time, but man could that guy give a speech. There are a couple of his speeches that I really liked though. The Brandenburg Gate speech was one. The other was the one when the Space Shuttle exploded. I still get choked up when I hear him give that speech. It was honest and from the heart.

Of course he did have an unfair advantage. He was an actor.


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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 02:31 AM
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5. Interesting. I am an actor as well as a director and I STILL find Clinton better
I never saw Reagan in person though and I must say Clinton is something else in person.He literally radiates charisma! One look and you know what all the women fell for! He has the "personal touch" as well. He can meet you once not see you for years and still greet you by name. The man is amazing.As for Reagan being an actor, the old saying is that if you are good, they should never catch you at it. And to me Reagan was grade B and very obviously "acting". But that is just my opinion. But i do agree he gave a decent speech and could be charming, not unlike Clinton. I just found Clinton more convincing.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:37 PM
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2. I love Bill and I am not at all surprised at this
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:10 PM
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3. That's why he's the Big Dog! eom
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 02:32 PM
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6. I MISS BILL
CLINTON PRAISE-WITH PLEASURE
GDP--rose from 6300 to 11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--took 20 years to grow 2500B before Clinton
JOBS CREATED--over 22 million--record by far
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that  mark 4 times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to 3.9%
WELFARE TO WORK—11,533,710 on federal roll in 1996 and 3,880,321 in 2007.
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior12 years
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---80% under Reagan- who da true conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE--3,500 to 11,800  all it's history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000---all of it's history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings  in history during peacetime in  AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE even 98.5% in Moscow--left office with highest gallup rating since it was started in 1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught--- ONE--- very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS--Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.


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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 02:34 PM
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7. I MISS BILL II
Comparing Democrat’s hero-CLINTON—versus Republican’s hero--REAGAN
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1.JOBS—grew by 43% more under Clinton.
2.GDP---grew by 57% more under Clinton.
3.DOW—grew by 700% more under Clinton..
4. MARKET CAP INCREASE—Clinton + 330%--Reagan + 136%
5.NASDAQ-grew by 18 times as much under Clinton.
6.SPENDING--grew by 28% under Clinton---80% under Reagan.
7.DEBT—grew by 43% under Clinton—187% under Reagan.
8. DEFICITS—Clinton got a large surplus--grew by 112% under Reagan.
9.NATIONAL INCOME—grew by 100% more under Clinton.
10.PERSONAL INCOME—Grew by 110% more under Clinton.
11.MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME-grew by 75% more under Clinton
12. DEFENSE BUDGETED-Clinton -2311B—Reagan-2062B (current $)
13.UNEMPLOYMENT—AVG—Clinton 5.2%--Reagan 7.6%
(I admit averaging averages can be dumb. I dumb.)
SOURCES—Bureau of Labor Statistics (www.BLS.Gov)--Economic Policy Institute (EPI.org)—Global & World Almanacs from 1980 to 2003 (annual issues)
www.the-hamster.com (chart taken from NY Times)
National Archives History on Presidents. www.nara.gov
LA Times 10-11-00 on Market--www.Find articles.com
Federal Budget.Com 2009

A vote for a Conservative is a vote for Less Success.
A vote to reduce the Standard of Living for all Americans.

Recall 1920’s and Wall Street under Conservative control?
Recall 2000-2008 and Wall Street under Conservative control?

Want more of those years? It will take many years to recover.


Lifeaholics Of America
author-unpublished
“All American Party”
How Democrats created a great Middle Class
and Conservatives are determined to destroy it



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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 02:40 PM
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8. I MISS BILL III
Good Comments on Bill Clinton

1.Billy Graham at Oklahoma City-“His quick mind and warm personality impressed me immediately. Seldom have I seen anyone express, so movingly and sincerely, a genuine sense of compassion and sympathy to those who were hurting.

I felt that he, not I, was the real pastor that day.

We spent much of the afternoon talking about the Bible and what it days about God’s plan for our lives. It was a time of warm fellowship with man who has not always won approval from his fellow Christians but who has in his heart “a desire to serve God”.

2. James McDougal On Larry King—“Bill Clinton’s charisma and caring for others is real. He has always been that way.”

3. Hillary Clinton—“He is the most optimistic and gregarious person I have ever known or heard about. He likes people, all people, with no pettiness or preferences.”

4. John Brummitt—Author of ”High Wire” and Editor of Republican Arkansas Democrat Gazette—“Bill Clinton is no phony. He truly cares for others. I will repeat it for the umpteenth time that Bill Clinton is no crook. You may disagree with him but he does not hold it against you. He has no interest in financial things.”

5. David Maraniss-Author of Clinton Biography “First in His Class” and reporter for Washington Post. “Bill Clinton truly likes people and feels their pain .He doesn’t know how to hate. He doesn’t have a mean bone in his body.”

6.Jack Nelson—Washington Bureau Chief for Los Angeles Times for decades—“ I have known Bill Clinton since he came to Washington but I know of nothing he has done that impugns his integrity. His integrity is as good as Bob Doles. He has to compromise from his original position to get things done and his critics crucify him for doing what every president must do.”

7. James Stewart—Author of Bloodsport—“The Clintons commited no crime in their investment in the Whitewater land purchase.”

8. Pillsbury-Madison Soutra Report—Paid 3.4 million by RTC to investigate Madison Guaranty S&L. Their final report-“We found no culpability on the part of the Clintons or the Rose Law Firm.”

9. James McDougal-President of the Whitewater Development Corporation—“There was no crime committed in the purchase and selling of Whitewater property.”

10. Robert Novak—“I think Bill Clinton is terrific.”

11. Newt Gingrich—“Bill Clinton charms me. It takes me days of detoxification after a meeting with him.”

12. D’Amato—Chair of Senate Hearings on Whitewater—There was no crime. Many allegations, insinuations and smears but no crime.

13. Clarence W. Swinney-Producer of ”Lifeaholics-Work For A Life Not Just A living”-
President Bill Clinton is one of our all time great presidents. He is no whiner like President Bush. He is intelligent unlike President Reagan. He fights like a pit bull for his programs unlike President Truman. His record of success on his basic programs is phenomenal. The right wing National Review wrote “President Clinton absolutely ate the cake of the Republican Congress in 1997”.
14, Sarah McClendon—Author of “Mr. President, Mr. President”—I think Bill Clinton may go down in history as one of our really great presidents. Bill Clinton’s allure comes from the unmistakable feeling that he genuinely likes you.

The presidency has been broadened by Mr. Clinton from his high summitry on war and peace. International trade and foreign policy to include such matters as abuse of women, teen-age pregnancy, youth gangs and even schoool construction. His actions extend a helping hand to those living with the problems in homes, communities and the job world.

Mr. Clinton has taken on a lot more than he had to. He does not want to be anybody’s enemy and he hates to hear you talk badly about anyone.”

15. Don Imus-“President Clinton has a great heart. He truly cares.”

16. Gennifer Flowers—“Bill Clinton would never do what Paula Jones said he did. Bill Clinton has respect for women and is a perfect gentleman at all times around women.”

17. Susan McDougal—“Bill Clinton was not interested in the Whitewater account. My husband, Jim. Said “everytime I tried to talk business with Bill Clinton his eyes rolled back in his head. He had no interest.”

18. Ronald K. Anderson—Arkansas State Trooper—“I guarded Governor Clinton for 8 years, night and day, and sometimes seven days in a row and I never saw him do anything wrong. The three of us that guarded him most of the tine were offered $700,000 each, to trash Bill Clinton, by Cliff Jackson.”

19. Dick Morris-Clinton adviser for years—“I was with Bill Clinton probably 1,000 days and 10,000 hours and I never saw him express any interest in any woman except Hillary and he would fight you over her.”

20. Carolyn Yeldell Staley—closest lifetime friend—“Bill sees religion as an important (but intensely personal) part of life. Bill is a Christian and his personal faith has grown and deepened through his adult life. Bill is private about his faith and does not trivialize it by overly publicizing his church attendance. His faith is very personal and real.”


21. Douglas Eakeley—Fellow Rhodes Scholar at Oxford—“Bill’s potential for leadership was apparent. My first impression was “is this guy for real”. It didn’t take long to find out. He was (and remains) one of the most gregarious persons I have ever met. Bill’s interest in others conveyed a sense of understanding and sympathy that gave him an ability to relate to people of all walks of life.”

22.Stephen Oxman-Fellow student at Oxford—“I remember how interested he was in talking with people and how much he enjoyed it. He displayed an unusual ability to engage people from many different backgrounds in friendly, substantive conversations.
I think this skill arises from Bill’s inherent liking for people. He finds in others a great source of life’s richness and potential, and he gives of himself so that others find this in him as well.”

23. Douglas Eakeley—fellow student at Oxford—“His anguished decision to give up his draft deferment and subject himself to the draft reflects a combination of courage, integrity and a sense of calling that is so typical of Bill Clinton.”

24. Don Pogue—Fellow student at Oxford—“Bill’s warmth for people always seemed to help him maintain a balance in difficult times. My amazement at how well Bill maintained a balance during the war events. He talked with people. He listened. He read and he seemed to be reading a new book each week. He seemed to have a reserve of decency towards everybody he met that just kept him going.”

25. Congressman Thomas Allen—Classmate at Oxford—“When I was with Presdient Clinton at Oxford he had greatness written all over him. His character, personality and leadership were obvious. You never felt he was patronizing or trying to gain something personal. He was impressive as a person who wanted desperately to do good for all. He has been that same person all these years.”

26. Britt Hume—“Bill Clinton is the most charming man I have ever met. You cannot be around him and not like him. He makes Reagan look dull.”

27. Nelson Mandela—“President Clinton is one of the most decent men I have come across and he has got a thick skin and strong nerves.”

28. David Gergen-Reporter—“ Ass someone who has worked with and known the man for more than a dozen years, I believe that in a crisis Bill Clinton steps up to the challenge. He can certainly do the damnest things but down deep he has a good heart and tries very hard to serve a higher good.”

29. Republican Rep. Asa Hutchinson—long time opponent of Clinton—“when my family came to Washington in 1996, the Clintons invited my family for a tour of the White House. It was a great treat for mom. I will never forget the time Governor Clinton stayed at a town meeting until 1 a.m. discussing environmental problems in the small town of El Dorado. It just impressed me. His interest and commitment. I was also impressed when, in 1992, he ignored the advice of professional politicians and kept his campaign and transition team in Little Rock. His roots in Arkansas have always been very important to him.”

30. Prime Minister Netanyahu—“President Clinton is a warrior for peace. He never stops. He never quits. He has boundless optimism. I mean he does not stop. He has this ability to maintain a tireless pace and to nudge and prod and suggest.”

GREATNESS SHALL BE REWARDED


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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 02:41 PM
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9. I MISS BILL IV
113 REASONS TO ADMIRE PRESIDENT CLINTON

Tried to get Universal Health Care
National Health Care Costs rising at 10% per annum. Cut to 3%
Deficit Reduction Package
Crime Bill
100,000 cops on street--crime down down down
Welfare Reform-- Mend do not end. GOP helped big time
80% increase in child welfare payments
Job Growth-Record 236,000 per month. (Reagan/Bush 167,000)
Largest percentage of Americans working in history
Largest Home Ownership in history
Record number of small business formations
Tax Cut for 15 million working families
Family and Medical Leave Act
Defense Reinvest and Conversion--Bush enjoying weapons created by Clinton
Direct loan programs for students
Guts to put promises in a book "Putting People First"-58 promises in book. Took action on 56 in first two years.
Second best record in history for getting legislation through Congress in first to years. LBJ number one.
Reinvented Government--cut payroll
Released for public scrutiny more classified documents than all presidents combined
Fewest number of civilians on federal payroll in 36 years
Attacked cop killing nasty rifle association.
Attacked the cancer inducing tobacco industry
Promoted a global effort to ban abusive forms of child labor
Loan 12.8 Billion to Mexico. Made 800 Million profit. Kept Mexico afloat.
Wash. Post kept list of campaign promises. 162. Took action on 96% in first two years.
Took on prejudice toward other Americans in military
Took on his own Southern Baptist Church
Hard smart work in Middle East and Bosnia-Kosovo
Honored with all of the following:
Dove of Peace Award
Rabin-Peres Peace Award
Gandhi Peace Award
Order of Good Hope Award
Nominated for Nobel Peace Award
Northern Ireland Peace Agreement
Lifeaholics of America Award for Quarter Century "Working for a Life Not Just A Living".
First President to visit Northern Ireland
Cleanup of Toxic sites. Record
Increasing weekly earnings
Shoo Shoo Saddam get away from Kuwait
Stopping Haitians from drowning enroute to freedom
First to visit South Africa
First to make a determined effort to help the African continent come together and grow together
Taxing top 1.2% of very wealthy to get Zoom Zoom Boom economy
Stopping Republicans in the House from raiding Medicare of 181 Billion
Stopping Republicans raid on Medicaid
Stopping Republicans raid on education
Stopping Republicans attack on environment
Largest increase in Education funding since GI Bill
Increased funding for Head Start
Nafta.. A success until the Peso went south
Submitting 8 budgets close to rate of inflation
Brady Bill
Gaat
Assault Weapons Ban
Telling Japan "You take our auto parts or we will apply tariffs on you
California Desert Protection
Forest Management Plan for Northwest
Restoration of Florida Everglades
 Preservation of land in Utah
Major increase in funding for homeless
Motor Voter Act
Lobbying Reform Effort. Handshake with Newt who reneged
Pressure to get Campaign Finance Reform.
National Export Strategy. Unbelievable success.
Over 250 Trade pacts
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Pact
Summit of Americas
Super 301
Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty.
Bottom Up Review of Military
Agreement with Cuba to stop flow of immigrants to USA.
Ameri-Corps
Reduced Nuclear Threat Around the World
Community Banking Act
FEMA used as an active participant and a leader in disaster relief
Tax on well off social security beneficiaries
100,000 new teachers effort
5,000 new classroom effort
50% of classes thru K-12 on internet
Fourth Graders improvement on world tests
Lifetime Learning Opportunity Program
Controls on Spending and Borrowing
Pension Protection Act of 1994
Record high consumer confidence
Very, very, very low Misery Index
National Agenda on Racial Prejudices
First to get African-American unemployment under 10%
Balanced Budget
Record Corporate profits
Record Bank profits
Record Savings and Loan profits
Never whining despite non-sop smears and attacks
Not having a Mean Bone in his body per Historian David Maraniss
Not knowing how to hate
Classing others as "opponents" not "enemies"
Inviting your attackers to the White House functions
Inviting your defeated opponent Bob Dole to visit troops at Christmas
A national attack on hate crimes
Fighting to protect "legal" immigrants from Republicans in the House.
Fighting hard for Fast Track legislation
Kennedy and Kassenbaum Portability of Insurance
Lowest interest rates in 30 years
Allowing millions of homeowners to refinance home loans at lower (much) rates
Lowest unemployment in 25 years
Lowest inflation in 25 years
Lowest welfare rolls in 27 years
Lowest crime Rates in 25 years
First balanced budget sent to Congress in 29 years
Protecting worker pensions (repeat?)
Opposed ban on "Late Term Abortions"
A stock market which passed a 1,000 mark six times
Greatest growth in federal revenues in history
Played Saxophone and Smoked Peace Pipe, instead of beating War Drums like__.
One of History's all time workers for Peace
President in a year when Fortune Magazine classified it as "Greatest Economy in the History of the world"
Popularity jump in the midst of a scandal.
President with highest peacetime popularity in Asia, Africa, Russia and Europe.
Highest popularity of any president at end of fifth year in office
One of the most highly regarded First Lady in History.
One of the most highly regarded Vice-President in History
A Lifetime of Treating all Persons with Respect
ALL AMERICAN MAN
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:55 AM
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10. Thanks for the lists
Clinton is so underappreciated in my opinion.
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