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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:19 PM
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how many of you guys can speak Irish?
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 09:19 PM by Stop_the_War
I was thinking about learning it because I'm Irish but it looks very hard.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:06 AM
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1. Do you mean Gaelic?
I'm kind of confused here...
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 06:23 AM
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2. Irish is a Gaelic language.
There's Welsh, Scots and Cornish types of Gaelic, too (probably more). Our own Maeve talks Irish pretty well. I barely speak English.

:hi:
dbt
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:16 PM
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15. The irish version is actually "Gaelgia" is it not?
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:22 AM
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3. you say potato
Irish Gaelic and Scots Gaelic are very similar languages. Irish is commonly used to describe Irish Gaelic ( pronounced Gay-lic ).


Scots Gaelic ( pronounce Gah-lic ) is spoken in the north west of Scotland. Scots Gaelic is never called Scots because there is already a language called Scots ( a mixture of Norse, English & Gaelic - a few other languages too, but those are the three dominate ones ).
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 06:52 PM
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6. It's much more commonly referred to as Irish.
Gaelic describes the family of languages to which Irish belongs.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:33 AM
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4. Tá beag Gaeilge agam
It's not easy; it's very different from the Latin-based languages we're used to.

A good place to start on the web is http://www.daltai.com/home.htm
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:42 PM
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7. Go raibh maith agat.
I'm checking out that link right now.

Slán go fóill.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:10 PM
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8. Failte
Anyone wants more links, I've got 'em, just ask.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:32 PM
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9. Le do thoil.
I'd check out all the links you want to post. I've got a question. I've heard that there is a difference in accent between the Republic and NI. Is it true? If it is true, how does it differ and does the northern accent sound scottish?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:42 PM
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10. There is a lot.
Primarily in idioms and pronunciation of slender consonants (e.g slender "t" like in English in Munster, but like "ch" in Donegal), the NI Irish is much closer to Scots Gaelic.

Dia duit, sláinte!
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:53 AM
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13. There are numerous accents/dialects
Kerry Irish is distinguishable from Connemara Irish (cois fhairrge, as some term it), for instance. They standardized the spelling in 1945, but not the pronunciation. There is a school standard, tho, and some of the differences are smoothing out--RTE helps with that, too.
Yes, the NI accent is closer to that of Scotland.

Links: Since you're looking at both, here's one with Irish and Scots Gaelic lessons:http://www.contemporarypoetry.com/brain/lang/index.htm

Beo, an internet Irish magazine: http://www.beo.ie/

You can get a free flash-card program for vocabulary from Transparent.com: http://www.learn-irish-language-software.com/index.htm

And a couple of bookstores--Litriocht is the most complete, but Irish Books & Media is located in Minnesota and ships quickly

http://www.litriocht.com/shop/
http://www.irishbook.com/vIndex.htm?cat698.htm

All these sites have their own links, too, so have fun!

Ná habair é.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:21 AM
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5. I would love to learn.
They just started an Irish Language program here on the campus where I work and I'm tempted to start taking classes. However, I have NO capacity for learning other languages. My sister speaks six different languages and I feel luck to have mastered English.

But, it's such a beautiful language, I'm seriously thinking of trying.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:48 PM
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12. I'm in your situation - awful with languages
I did try learning Irish and it was difficult - nothing about it is anything like English. Of course, the classes I took were very informal. They were held in a bar in St. Paul (or as we called it Gaelteacht St. Paul). I've lost what little I had except for a few phrases. I used to joke that I was in the class to disprove Jung's theory that everything your ancestors knew is locked in your own subconscious.

Still it was fun and I think you should give it a shot.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:52 PM
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11. Tá sí agam!
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 09:54 PM by ZombieNixon
Beag, cé go tá mo fuaimniú uafásach.

Ádh mór ort má foghlaimeoidh tú!

Edited for spelling, not that it would matter to most people! :)
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:16 AM
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14. Ní tír gan teanga.
Of course I do.

:)
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:16 PM
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16. Yes, I'd love too
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