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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:48 PM
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I am just one document away from Irish citizenship.
I need to obtain my Grandmother's birth certificate from Ireland. She was born in County Donegal. The application is very simple. My name, my father's name, my grandmother's name and the relevant information pertaining to their and my birth record. The hard part is getting my grandmother's birth certificate. It is kind of a catch 22, I don't know when she was born so I can't put that info on the request. I think that I will send it in with out her birth date, I have her death certificate and her age, so I'll just count backwards, send it in and hope for the best. Hope to get all this done before the end of the summer. Then I will tackle obtaining an Irish/EU passport.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:34 AM
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1. Are you planning to move or just getting the citizenship?
We didn't get as far north as Donegal last trip, but I do want to get up that way eventually.

No family bible or date on her tombstone, that sort of thing? (But then, my grandma's grave has her name wrong, because she hated her first name!) Good luck!
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:59 AM
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2. I am going to maintain dual citizenship
That is until life in the U.S. is unbearable.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:58 PM
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12. I'm hanging on with you FYI!
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 07:59 PM by CountAllVotes
So you are not alone.

We stay and we fight!

No one fights like the Irish do! :toast:

:kick:
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:50 PM
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3. To where do you apply for birth certificates?
Both my father's parents are from County Donegal...
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:34 AM
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10. Offices of Superintendent Registrars
http://www.irelandemb.org/fbr.html

Send your application directly to the county in which your grandparent was born. If you do not know the county, send the application to the Registrar’s Office in Dublin. If your grandparent was born in Northern Ireland before 1922 send your application to the Registrar’s Office in Dublin.

Donegal North
(074) 24576
St. Conal’s Hospital, Letterkenny, Co. Donegal

Donegal South
(074) 31038
St. Joseph’s Hospital, Stranorlar, Co. Donegal
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:12 PM
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4. How far can you back?
I'm guessing you have to have your grandparents born in Ireland. That would be cool if it as your great grandparents though.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:18 AM
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5. Here's a quick chart
And a link to more info:

A (Born in Ireland) Irish Citizen
B (Child of A) Irish Citizen
C (Child of B grandchild of A) Must register to obtain Irish citizenship
D (Child of C great-grandchild of A) May register for Irish citizenship, provided that 'C' had registered by the time of 'D's' birth

http://www.movetoireland.com/
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:31 PM
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6. Are you serious?
I'm so totally in!!!!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:53 PM
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8. After 1984
It only goes back as far as grandparent(s).
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:00 AM
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9. even great grandparents wouldnt help me
Great Grandmother and Father was born here in the states as well.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:52 PM
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7. Do you know about the vital records at Joyce House in Dublin?
http://www.groireland.ie/fees.htm

I'm attempting to do the same (get dual citizenship with IReland).
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:14 PM
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11. OK, I'm SOOL on Irish citizenship -- it was my

greatgrandmothers who were Irish -- but does anyone know about British citizenship? My paternal grandparents came to America from England.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:04 PM
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13. wow
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:35 PM
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14. I'm going to look into what I have to do to get Irish citizenship.
My husband was born and raised in Ireland. We're going "home" for Christmas, three whole weeks, and while we're there I'm gonna look into it.

We own a home in Ireland and are seriously considering re-locating there sometime in the near future.

He also has dual citizenship. Having an Irish/EU passport makes things so much easier for him going through immigration at the Dublin airport. He's through in about 5 minutes, while I have to wait in line...
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:56 PM
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15. info. on Irish citizenship
The policies have changed a lot since 9/11.

Here is the link that tells you the specifics:

http://foreignaffairs.gov.ie/services/citizenship/default.asp?m=s

Please note: It can be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to find a birth certificate for a grandparent (depending upon when that grandparent was born), especially if before the year 1920.

Best of luck to you.

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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:38 PM
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16. It's not that hard really.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 08:39 PM by Jara sang
I just recently sent off for my grandmother's birth certificate, her birth year was 1886. They sent me one back, correct name but it was the wrong person. I am sending them(Joyce House) more info on my grandmother so they can get me the proper one.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:20 AM
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17. more info.
:hi:

I got this information from the Secretary of the Clan I belong to. He is an excellent resource and resides in Ireland and is ~80 years old. This might explain why finding birth certificates can be very difficult.

>> Ancestral research in Ireland is not easy. Records of deaths, births and marriages only began about 1860. Up until 1922 many people didn't register at all. Why should they? Officialdom was in the hands of the British Government who at that time occupied all of Ireland against the will of the majority of the Irish people. And by registering, one was accepting their authority. Anyway, there was little or nothing to be gained by registering at that time. Under the Irish Free State (1922 onwards) all deaths, births and marriages were recorded properly.

I have two aunts who immigrated to the US in 1926. One is 93 and lives in Phila. the other 96 and lives in Stamford, Conn. When they applied for their Social Security they were asked to produce their Birth Certificate. On checking with the registrar in Stranorlar, Co. Donegal, it transpired there was no record of their births.

In order to establish your 'Roots' it is essential to know the townland your ancestors came from. During the first half of the last century the population of Ireland was double what it is today. <<

Keep looking and I do wish you luck.

CountAllVotes

:kick:
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:14 PM
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18. My family is from Donegal as well.
McCallions and McLaughlins. Joyce House was very helpful, they fulfilled my request very quickly. It was really my fault that they sent me the wrong birth certificate. I had the wrong birth year on the application.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:54 PM
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19. I have been thinking of doing this also.
And my grandparents also came from county Donegal. Thank God my mother kept all the records of the family history
and their move here. I would like to obtain dual citizenship with an eye toward moving there within five years.

Thanks for the post. OB
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:05 PM
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20. geez ....
Maybe we should all pack up and move to Donegal. It's a wonderful place! I spent almost a month there this past summer! :thumbsup: all the way for good ol' Donegal!

Erin go braugh!!!!

:dem:
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:06 PM
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21. My daughter went two years ago to meet our relatives there.
She had a great time - loved being there and being with them.

She has it in the back of her mind to go there too.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:45 AM
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22. I got Italian citizenship, so I have dual citizenship now
However, my Mom's family is quite Irish-American, and I'm planning to move to Ireland in a few years -- gotta love that EU passport!
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:54 AM
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23. Italy? ...Really?
My wife's grandfather is/was from Italy (Montepagano), and we would be most interested in the process.
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