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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:03 PM
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Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 S. 1959 & H.R. 1955
House bill...

H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955

"Oct 23, 2007: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by roll call vote. The vote was held under a suspension of the rules to cut debate short and pass the bill, needing a two-thirds majority. The totals were 404 Ayes, 6 Nays, 22 Present/Not Voting."

House vote
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll993.xml
or
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993

---- NAYS 6 ---

Abercrombie
Costello
Duncan
Flake
Kucinich
Rohrabacher


Senate bill...

S. 1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1959

from the Thomas site

"4/19/2007 Introduced in House
10/16/2007 Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Homeland Security. H. Rept. 110-384, Part I.
10/16/2007 Committee on Judiciary discharged.
10/23/2007 Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 404 - 6 (Roll no. 993).
10/24/2007 Referred to Senate committee: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs."


FWIW this bill came up the other night during the Q&A at Dartmouth

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x72317


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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:31 PM
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1. Thanks.
It was the right vote.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:43 PM
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2. And thank you, I'm going to try and put pending legislation
info here for easy reference. Too many bills slip by while we are entertained with trivial matters :)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:01 PM
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3. ndi Rhodes & Philip Giraldi discuss H.R. 1955
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:31 PM
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4. Additional info here...
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 02:32 PM by slipslidingaway
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4071912&mesg_id=4086972


This link has a great summary of statements from various organizations and people, links included.
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/695672.aspx


The Center for Constitutional Rights opposes the bill and issued this Fact Sheet.

http://ccrjustice.org/learn-more/faqs/factsheet%3A-violent-radicalization-and-homegrown-terrorism-prevention-act-2007

"...However the greater fear should be the possible future outcomes of any report, which will focus in on passing additional federal criminal penalties that are sweeping and inclusive in criminalizing dissent and protest work more surveillance on thought rather than on actions. Further this bi-partisan attempt can set the ground for an even more acquiescent Congress to Presidential power, never wanting to look weak on terrorism...

...The focus on the internet is crucial, it can set up far more intrusive surveillance techniques, without warrants, and the potential to criminalize ideas and not actions can mean penalties for your stance rather than any criminal act..."



Kucinich on HR 1955

http://www.indypendent.org/2007/12/02/kucinich-on-hr-1955/

“If you understand what his bill does, it really sets the stage for further criminalization of protest,” Kucinich said. “This is the way our democracy little, by little, by little, is being stripped away from us. This bill, I believe, is a clear violation of the first amendment.”

...The bill would create a National Commission, who would be charged with the task making legislative recommendations on how to prevent, disrupt and mitigate violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. Many activists, scholars and civil liberties experts are worried that in order to prevent an act of “homegrown terrorism,” people who have radical or “extreme belief systems” would have to be monitored before a criminal act might occur. This, they surmise, would amount to unlawful surveillance of individuals who are critical to the Bush administration and those who hold power in the current economic and political system.

He pointed to the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act (AETA) of 2006 as an example of another bill that, he says, also “criminalizes dissent.” According to the bill, anyone who engages in acts of “force, violence, or threats” that would interfere or cause damage to businesses engaged in animal enterprise, could be charged with a felony. This includes acts that could cause a “loss of profits” to the business. The businesses noted in the bill include, “a commercial or academic enterprise that uses or sells animals or animal products for profit, food or fiber production, agriculture, education, research, or testing; a zoo, aquarium, animal shelter, pet store, breeder, furrier, circus, or rodeo, or other lawful competitive animal event; or any fair or similar event intended to advance agricultural arts and sciences.”

Interestingly, like H.R. 1955, the AETA was also passed under the “suspension of the rules,” a provision that allows the House to quickly pass non-controversial bills. When the suspension was requested Nov. 16, 2006, only six members of the house were present for the vote. Kucinich was the only one to oppose the bill. He noted that the bill was, “written in such a way as to have a chilling effect on the exercise of the constitutional rights of protest…”

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:45 PM
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5. Video...Waxman asked why he voted for HR 1955
Starting at 3:15 in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wei_hJdwkxY
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