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bcool Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:44 AM
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What if Congress is waiting until after the elections?
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 06:47 AM by bcool
I know this is probably wishful thinking, but what if Congress is waiting until after Bush & Co. is out of office to bring charges against them? Could they be waiting for the following reasons:

  • By convicting anyone now, Bush would just pardon them upon leaving office
  • By starting impeachment now, it could leave a negative impression towards Democrats in some voter's minds and risk getting a Dem in the White House
  • By waiting, they're letting the information about the nefarious activities of the administration trickle out as we move towards the election, giving them plenty of ammunition to convince voters they can't trust another Republican
  • (on edit) By keeping their plans under wraps, they're avoiding a distracting confrontation with the Republicans now, to help get a Dem as president so their actions will be veto-proof


I mean, there HAS to be a reason nothing is being done - I just can't believe it's because the Democrats are all beholden to special interests or other distractions. Something seems odd that NOBODY is seriously trying to address all the evil that's happened over the last 7+ years....or am I living in a dream world, and the U.S. is following Rome into the dustbin of history??
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:48 AM
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1. Dream World
Seriously, get back to the real world. Nothing will be done against anyone after the election.

Politicians don't like to disturb the status quo.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:50 AM
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2. blackmail springs immediately to mind
Kucinich can't be blackmailed--no matter what the right wing does, he'll just keep speaking out the truth, because he HAS risked it all before and lost it (political exile after his term as mayor--great loss of income as well) and come back. After you've done that,you tend not to be afraid. But Pelosi and others--perhaps they feel they don't want to lose what they have. At least that's my take on things.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:05 AM
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3. I've wondered about this, too - he has a huge spread in Paraguay
And there is no extradition from there, so perhaps that's where he'll be heading. Impeachment is possible even after someone has left office (they become ineligible for pensions--big deal!, but there may be some other implications as well).

If Nixon had been impeached, it should have sent a message to the Cheneys and Roves of the world and perhaps we would not be in the position we are now. If we do not do something, this will happen again--the precedent has been set, and while we could never have imagined how horrible things could get and how much of what we value could be dismantled in so short a time, there could be even more horrendous surprises in store in a couple of decades if we do not impeach B/C.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:14 AM
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6. Extradition treaties haven't stopped us during the last 8 years
from swooping in a snatching whoever we need to.
Granted that's a Bush tactic... but hey, what's good for goose : - )))

On the legitimate side of things, new extradition treaties can always be negotiated.
Political winds change and what's in Paraguay's interest today may be very different next year.
If Chimpy runs, there will be nowhere on this earth where he can hide.. unless it's with Osama.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:06 AM
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4. That's probably the only way it can work
especially with Bush's power to pardon.
Just wait 8 months or so.
That's gotta be driving some of these crooks bomkers.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:12 AM
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5. What if I told you that I was the Queen of England? Same difference.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:19 AM
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7. I vote for "dream world". nt
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:15 AM
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8. Not a good idea
I can not think of a better way to immediately poison the political water well for a President Obama or Clinton (besides we very well Clinton will never touch it).

The GOP will get it's back up and use it as club to beat us for the 2 years leading to the 2010 elections.

A large part of the public will look at it as Democrat retribution for the Clinton impeachment (because God nows that is how the GOP will spin it, and they will have plenty of help with the main stream media).

We have to face cold hard political facts that just as a large majority of GOP type supporters and voters believe fiercely that Clinton got off scott free, so will Bush.

It is just a fact.

If we want to screw this up at the beginning of a new Democrat administration, this is a good way to start.:think:
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:52 AM
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9. Congress can only impeach.
They can't file any other charges, and once bushco is out of office it becomes irrelevant.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:24 PM
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11. Genocide is murder
and murder has no time limit.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:58 AM
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12. But congress has no power to file those charges
Only the Attorney General can
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:14 PM
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10. Right now they'd have to include themselves in his crimes.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 02:14 PM by mac2
They gave him their duties and powers. They also covered for him and refused to impeach while he did more criminal acts against us and foreign countries.

It's not like they don't know what the Bush family are all about.
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