KOEB Meeting 12/3/08 Keith Lights Up the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree Edition

No, wait, that's not the tree--someone just draped Michael Moore with colored lights for the holidays. Sorry.



Tonight's image is courtesy of the otherwise useless boys over at Olbermann Watch. Once in a while, even they come up with something kinda funny.

:hi: Join us! Sadly, BlinkoTV is still down, so I must be Berry After the Show. :-(

I think "A Christmas Story" is on tonight, too. :)



:hi: Hi, everyone!

:hi:

Are you snowed in? I am! :bounce::bounce:

Cold and windy, but no snow by me. If we get any, I hope it's enough to snow me in completely.

I still haven't shovelled out my driveway. I sure hope the snowthrower works! :scared:

Not that cold here yet.

:evilgrin:

Cold? What is this "cold"?


dg

:P

:loveya: :hi:

dg

:loveya::hi:

:hi: They had a big 25th anniversary celebration of the movie here this past weekend. "Santa" is no longer with us, but his family came for the festivities, as did many of the actors from the movie. We even got the fire truck that came to rescue Flick, visiting us from Canada for the weekend.

Maybe next year (with a new job), I can come out and join ya for the fun!

The house and museum are really fun, and some of the actors visit on Thanksgiving weekend every year.

:bounce::bounce:

It's a Chinese place that offers discounts off your dinner with your admission stub.

We should do a KOEB meetup next year!! :D

Yowza! :crazy:

:hi: Berry!

dg

:hi:

Slow night around here.

interesting day on DU...someone insisting that parents be allowed to go to the Inauguration with their babies in strollers. :wtf:

dg

that strollers are one of the verboten items. That makes no sense. I understand it, but it still makes no sense. Lots of families are going to be there. Are they supposed to carry their kids around all day?

I still think you're right: the best seat will be at home, in front of the TV.

on top of the security concerns, it's going to be difficult to care for small children in that crowd.

dg

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

Did ya get a pile of snow today? CC spent the afternoon watching the snow from the front window. :)

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& I have a meeting to go to tonight! :scared: I haven't been outside yet! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:

I haven't been outside since I got the mail, but I'd guess we got about 6 or 7 inches.

covered w/ snow! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:

http://www.catster.com/video/search/snow

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

:rofl: I wanna sit on Santa's lap! :evilgrin:

:hi:

:evilgrin: Take a number. :rofl:

dg

C'mon! What was it?

and posted a pic (the same one as the OP, but with what I thought was Clooney). Then I realized it was Billy Bob Thornton, not Clooney.

:rofl: I thought maybe it was something *really* naughty! :evilgrin:

That I wouldn't have taken down. I just felt dumb when I realized it was Billy Bob and not George.

That's the beauty of the hat. :evilgrin:

That's for sure. You betcha.

There, that was easy, wasn't it? :D

Thanks.

Sharon, :yourock:

That's exactly what I was picturing in my head! :rofl:

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me, too. :rofl:

:pals:

I could be a veereeeey naughty little girl for him.

Hi Greenie! :hi:

How are you doing? I read about your meeting but I never saw where you posted the outcome. Is everything ok? :hug:

and all the lights. I noticed they didn't show the long shot of his paper toss tonight.

This time it was with the District Superintendent and the members of my committee. They told him in no uncertain terms that it was unreasonable to expect me to move on Jan. 1. They thought that to move on April 1 would not only be disruptive (since Easter is April 12), but also were concerned about what kind of message having me move early would send to the troublemakers. So they said they first of all wanted me to stay, including next year; but then said they wanted me through the end of the conference year (June 30).

It was a very good meeting, and we went "in depth" with the situation with those who have been naughty. He got a pretty good picture of what's been going on, and seemed to understand. But the final decision is up to the Bishop... so, who knows? :shrug:

Thanks for asking, sweetie. :hug:

I wish all the best for you. :hug:

I have no idea what's ahead...so I can use all the prayers I can get! :hug:

My life has been one big gigantic WTF since October of 2006. I keep saying "someday" I'll tell y'all about it, but it's just such a long drawn out story... I wouldn't want to bore everybody to tears.

I think the last time you were with us, your SO's son was very ill, or dying... am I right? Even though you weren't here, I kept you in prayer during that time. :hug:

He had leukemia. He passed away on January 5th of 2007. :cry:

And, (unfortunately), I added to the pain of his son's death... I wasn't even here for my SO when it happened because something happened to me first. (I guess the easiest way to do this is... follow the link on my profile and read my "About Us" page on my website.)

I kinda went off the deep end after what happened to me... and totally lost my mind.

Same thing happened to me...about a year after my mom died, only a few months after 9/11. It was horrible. I had to move, and I had to do it fast because I couldn't stay in a place where I felt like a sitting duck. (I knew fully well who was doing it, even though I never caught him in the act...but the cops wouldn't do a thing.)

Thanks, Berry. :hug:

But... I'm kinda confused. What happened to you? (It doesn't sound like the same thing as me. I got so sick I basically died and had machines keeping me alive for two weeks.) When I finally recuperated I "went off on a wild tangent" so to speak. That's why I wasn't around for my SO when his son died... and I still feel horrible for not "being there" for my SO when he needed me.

Sorry. All I saw on your profile was the part about your having been burglarized twice!

No, I didn't get so sick I almost died. As for you, if that's what happened to you, how can you possibly feel guilty? It wasn't your fault. I know it's not always easy to talk people out of irrational feelings, but man, that's an irrational one for sure.

It's terrible what happened to you, and that you couldn't be there for your SO, and what happened is so sad...but your not being able to support him is not your fault. :hug:

By the Bushies.

Berry, "We were robbed - twice" refers to the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections. (I guess I need to change my "saying" now, huh?) :hug: If you click on the link to my website (it's listed on my profile) and read my "About Us" page, then you'll see what I was talking about.

After I recuperated, I totally went off the deep end, left my SO, (we are not married but had been together for 10 years), and took off to California to be with a long-lost old flame that had connected with me again just barely two months before I got sick.

When my SO called to tell me about his son's death, he was so upset ("first I lost you and now I've lost my son") that I felt like a total piece of shit for not "being there" for him. *That's* why I felt guilty.

But I was burglarized twice within two weeks...no lie.

Awww. Greenmutha, you were going through a tough time. Maybe you feeel guilty, but I personally would find it tough to stand in judgment of someone who had been through what you had been through and "totally went off the deep end" for a while. Sometimes life is...well, just shitty.

And what happened to you is awful, but I'm glad you seem to be doing okay now.

:hug:

:hug: My professional and financial life is in utter disarray though. Oh well; I'm certainly not alone in that complaint, huh? :shrug:

If you don't have your health, though, you have nothing, so at least you've got that back. Hopefully the rest will find some resolution.

Just read your link. :hug:

Thank you for the hug, Gigi. Right back 'atcha! :hug:

You know you're here among friends. :hug::hug::loveya::hug::hug:

And, it's wonderful to have you back!

Just ask the people who came looking for Jesus in his grave.

Oh, Berry! :rofl:
Thanks for that. :hug:

Feel free to use it next time someone brings up the problem with your Easter move.

One of the "problems" that keeps being raised is that I told "an inappropriate joke" to someone who was offended. Neither the Bishop or DS ever asked about it, but the bishop DID make reference to "an off-color joke." I said "it wasn't off-color." "A dirty joke?" "No, it wasn't a dirty joke. Just a joke that some people might not appreciate. I thought she was one who would like it - and she laughed at the time."

The joke:
Why doesn't Jesus eat M & M's?
A: Because they keep slipping through the holes in his hands.


Just to remind me, I have one of those little M&M statues on my desk, with a Santa hat on. Oh, and - it's the green one! :evilgrin:

:rofl: You have officially just become my hero, Rev. :hug:

Reminds me of this boss I once had who actually helped me trick out my Halloween costume one year at work, then later on, when she wasn't in such a good mood with me anymore, told me that "other" people had told her they thought it was in bad taste and inappropriate for a work setting. Oh please. Funny how she didn't seem to mind it at all back when she wasn't looking for excuses to treat me like crap.

Or the whole bailout.

of watching Roger's head explode.

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Friends,

I drive an American car. It's a Chrysler. That's not an endorsement. It's more like a cry for pity. And now for a decades-old story, retold ad infinitum by tens of millions of Americans, a third of whom have had to desert their country to simply find a damn way to get to work in something that won't break down:

My Chrysler is four years old. I bought it because of its smooth and comfortable ride. Daimler-Benz owned the company then and had the good grace to place the Chrysler chassis on a Mercedes axle and, man, was that a sweet ride!

When it would start.

More than a dozen times in these years, the car has simply died. Batteries have been replaced, but that wasn't the problem. My dad drives the same model. His car has died many times, too. Just won't start, for no reason at all.

A few weeks ago, I took my Chrysler in to the Chrysler dealer here in northern Michigan -- and the latest fixes cost me $1,400. The next day, the vehicle wouldn't start. When I got it going, the brake warning light came on. And on and on.

You might assume from this that I couldn't give a rat's ass about these miserably inept crapmobile makers down the road in Detroit city. But I do care. I care about the millions whose lives and livelihoods depend on these car companies. I care about the security and defense of this country because the world is running out of oil -- and when it runs out, the calamity and collapse that will take place will make the current recession/depression look like a Tommy Tune musical.

And I care about what happens with the Big 3 because they are more responsible than almost anyone for the destruction of our fragile atmosphere and the daily melting of our polar ice caps.

Congress must save the industrial infrastructure that these companies control and the jobs they create. And it must save the world from the internal combustion engine. This great, vast manufacturing network can redeem itself by building mass transit and electric/hybrid cars, and the kind of transportation we need for the 21st century.

And Congress must do all this by NOT giving GM, Ford and Chrysler the $34 billion they are asking for in "loans" (a few days ago they only wanted $25 billion; that's how stupid they are -- they don't even know how much they really need to make this month's payroll. If you or I tried to get a loan from the bank this way, not only would we be thrown out on our ear, the bank would place us on some sort of credit rating blacklist).

Two weeks ago, the CEOs of the Big 3 were tarred and feathered before a Congressional committee who sneered at them in a way far different than when the heads of the financial industry showed up two months earlier. At that time, the politicians tripped over each other in their swoon for Wall Street and its Ponzi schemers who had concocted Byzantine ways to bet other people's money on unregulated credit default swaps, known in the common vernacular as unicorns and fairies.

But the Detroit boys were from the Midwest, the Rust (yuk!) Belt, where they made real things that consumers needed and could touch and buy, and that continually recycled money into the economy (shocking!), produced unions that created the middle class, and fixed my teeth for free when I was ten.

For all of that, the auto heads had to sit there in November and be ridiculed about how they traveled to D.C. Yes, they flew on their corporate jets, just like the bankers and Wall Street thieves did in October. But, hey, THAT was OK! They're the Masters of the Universe! Nothing but the best chariots for Big Finance as they set about to loot our nation's treasury.

Of course, the auto magnates used be the Masters who ruled the world. They were the pulsating hub that all other industries -- steel, oil, cement contractors -- served. Fifty-five years ago, the president of GM sat on that same Capitol Hill and bluntly told Congress, what's good for General Motors is good for the country. Because, you see, in their minds, GM WAS the country.

What a long, sad fall from grace we witnessed on November 19th when the three blind mice had their knuckles slapped and then were sent back home to write an essay called, "Why You Should Give Me Billions of Dollars of Free Cash." They were also asked if they would work for a dollar a year. Take that! What a big, brave Congress they are! Requesting indentured servitude from (still) three of the most powerful men in the world. This from a spineless body that won't dare stand up to a disgraced president nor turn down a single funding request for a war that neither they nor the American public support. Amazing.

Let me just state the obvious: Every single dollar Congress gives these three companies will be flushed right down the toilet. There is nothing the management teams of the Big 3 are going to do to convince people to go out during a recession and buy their big, gas-guzzling, inferior products. Just forget it. And, as sure as I am that the Ford family-owned Detroit Lions are not going to the Super Bowl -- ever -- I can guarantee you, after they burn through this $34 billion, they'll be back for another $34 billion next summer.

So what to do? Members of Congress, here's what I propose:

1. Transporting Americans is and should be one of the most important functions our government must address. And because we are facing a massive economic, energy and environmental crisis, the new president and Congress must do what Franklin Roosevelt did when he was faced with a crisis (and ordered the auto industry to stop building cars and instead build tanks and planes): The Big 3 are, from this point forward, to build only cars that are not primarily dependent on oil and, more importantly to build trains, buses, subways and light rail (a corresponding public works project across the country will build the rail lines and tracks). This will not only save jobs, but create millions of new ones.

2. You could buy ALL the common shares of stock in General Motors for less than $3 billion. Why should we give GM $18 billion or $25 billion or anything? Take the money and buy the company! (You're going to demand collateral anyway if you give them the "loan," and because we know they will default on that loan, you're going to own the company in the end as it is. So why wait? Just buy them out now.)

3. None of us want government officials running a car company, but there are some very smart transportation geniuses who could be hired to do this. We need a Marshall Plan to switch us off oil-dependent vehicles and get us into the 21st century.

This proposal is not radical or rocket science. It just takes one of the smartest people ever to run for the presidency to pull it off. What I'm proposing has worked before. The national rail system was in shambles in the '70s. The government took it over. A decade later it was turning a profit, so the government returned it to private/public hands, and got a couple billion dollars put back in the treasury.

This proposal will save our industrial infrastructure -- and millions of jobs. More importantly, it will create millions more. It literally could pull us out of this recession.

In contrast, yesterday General Motors presented its restructuring proposal to Congress. They promised, if Congress gave them $18 billion now, they would, in turn, eliminate around 20,000 jobs. You read that right. We give them billions so they can throw more Americans out of work. That's been their Big Idea for the last 30 years -- layoff thousands in order to protect profits. But no one ever stopped to ask this question: If you throw everyone out of work, who's going to have the money to go out and buy a car?

These idiots don't deserve a dime. Fire all of them, and take over the industry for the good of the workers, the country and the planet.

What's good for General Motors IS good for the country. Once the country is calling the shots.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. I will be on Keith Olbermann tonight (8pm/10pm/midnight ET) to discuss this further on MSNBC.

He actually makes a lot of sense (to me, anyway) about this whole thing.

You're warming my heart more than the Christmas tree! You DESERVE to be draped in lights!

:hi: :bounce:

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and Cassie! :bounce::bounce:

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Thanks for growing, bringing, decorating, & lighting the tree, Keith! :)

but for $7.5 mil a year, Keith had damn well better do it. :rofl:

:loveya:Keith:loveya:

It dates back to when Lee Iacocca was begging the government to bail out Chrysler, and it was called "Lee Iacocca's Rock Concert." The premise was that Lee staged the concert so as to convince viewers to write Congress demanding that they bail out his company. In return for watching, Lee offered all viewers a $5 rebate and his guarantee that it would be a high-quality, dependable show.

Guests included Ringo Starr with his new band, "Rings," Gino Vanelli (who kept growing more and more hair on his body every time he sang "I just wanna STOP--"...I mean, his hands were hairier than KEITH's), Lee's daughter, "Imogene Iacocca," and George Carlin, who found everything to be "weird"! For the grand finale, he brought out Tony Orlando to sing "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Dodge Omni."

Oh, and I almost forgot: Slim Whitman and Barbra Streisand sang "You Don't Bring Me Flowers." Just about cracked windshields all over America.

Michael Moore would have loved it.

BIG OIL!!!!!!!!!!

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Wish me luck! :hi:

:hi: Take care.

It took a while for the machine to start, but once it did, I was surrounded in a cloud of blue haze and tyu76ytttttttt....
oops, sorry, that was CC saying "HI" to Cassie!
...a cloud of blue haze and gas fumes. The snow was light and fluffy, too. :)

Bush = World's Biggest Moron.

Spelling counts. ;)