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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:24 AM
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So who's going to be around tonight?
Think I may skip the speech and just show up for KO's analysis. :D What time, do we know?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:28 AM
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1. Got to go to work because...
...his lordship is doing a speech at 9:00 on a Sunday night. :grr: How considerate of the cubicle rats at newswire services. So FAMILY-FRIENDLY, y'know. :grr:

I'd rather be with you DUers and Keith. :cry:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:53 PM
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3. why, cb?
it's not like shrubbie will be saying anything NEW. all his speechifying lately has been recycled crap from two/three years ago. the only thing "new" he could possibly add is that he thinks it's ok for him to authorize illegal wiretapping. goddammit, if clinton had done this & owned up to it like shrubbie has, he'd have been run out of town on a rail...why is shrubbie still in office? :nuke:

dg
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:08 PM
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15. Oh, it wasn't my idea.
People above my pay grade made this decision on staffing.

And yes, everyone on this thread could put together the speech without batting an eye -- "central front in the war on terror," "democratic nations do not attack other nations," "spreading the peace," "Koizumi is a good friend," blah, blah, blah, blah. Look for the Frank Luntz-tested phrases about September 11th changing everything and how it's better to fight the terrorists in the streets of Baghdad than in Washington, D.C., etc.

The first KOEB member to pick out the Frank Luntz talking points in this speech should claim her prize immediately following. Say, what have we got for prizes?

I'm also wondering if Bush will use the phoney El Salvador analogy with Iraq. Members of the GOP, including Cheney, have been recycling the old Reagan speech about an election in El Salvador during the 1980s. What they don't tell you is that civil war continued for years after said election. They're being every bit as dishonest about Iraq.

Really, the only surprise would be if Bush actually has anything A) new to say or B) truthful to say. A is more likely than B, I'd guess.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:24 PM
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16. are they trotting that crap out again?
my fave from that era: the scare tactic about the communists in el salvador or nicaragua being only a 24-hour drive from the US. had us in the rio grande valley :rofl: for weeks....ya, only if you drive it straight (you can't) AND if the Mexicans don't put up a fight (they will). doonesbury had a week or two week-long series about it & the CAF (when it was still called the Confederate Air Force & stationed in Harlingen) announced it was scrambling the aircraft, including Fifi, in preparation of an "invasion."

dg
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:51 PM
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2. :raises hand:
:hi: me! i think the fun starts at 8pm central tonight. someone was griping that shrubbie was speaking opposit desparate housewives, but since i don't watch tv much, i don't know when that's on. :shrug:

anyone making a bingo card or are we slamming shots this time?

i call orange tie for ko.
dg
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:04 PM
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4. I'll be here. Unfortunately, Keith will NOT be analyzing as we'd hoped.
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 01:09 PM by BerryBush
Word is that Keith will merely "introduce" the speech and that then they will bring in TUCKER CARLSON to provide analysis. :puke: Just what we needed, huh? Argh.

I'd like to make up a bingo card, but doubt I will have time. Let's just have a drinking game:

--Drink every time he says "September the 11th"
--Drink every time he says "terra" or "terraists"
--Drink every time he mentions the Iraqi elections
--Drink every time he praises "our troops" and implies that not supporting the war demoralizes "our troops"
--Drink every time he gets defensive about anything he's ever done
--Drink every time he blames the media for anything
--Drink every time he implies that expressing disagreement with his actions is the equivalent of providing aid and comfort to the enemy and hating America
--Drink every time he implies that agreeing with everything he's done is the equivalent of being a true patriot

That should just about do it.

Of course, to make it really easy, one could just drink every time he says something stupid. But then you might as well just hook up the IV to the booze drip and stick the needle in before he even gets started.

Edited to add more categories just to make sure.

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:20 PM
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7. that makes no sense
why have him go to work just simply say "heeeeere's shrubbie" & btb do "analysis?" surely btb isn't so incompetent that he can't handle both.

too bad this speechifyin' is on sunday night...the only way i can handle listening to shrubbie is listening to steph mst3k it live.

dg
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:52 PM
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12. Well, that bites.
I guess I'll just turn on the tube when I get back from my neighbor's holiday party and see what's what. Honestly, why on earth is Shrub even bothering? I think pretty much everyone else in the country is too damn busy paying attention to Christmas... this is gonna be pretty much, uh, IGNORED. :D
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:58 PM
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14. Actually, that was me
DH is a rerun, so no problem there. Grey's Anatomy is also a rerun. I'll be around tonight. FYI, though, Randi is going to be on CSPAN at 8 - I think she's got a whole hour interview, so I'm going to watch that and then switch grudgingly over toe *, just so I'm in the know. Not that I expect him to say anything new.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:38 PM
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5. I'll be here.
And I'm HOPING that maybe Sparky's Bar will be open...
Let's all wish for it, and maybe it will come true. :loveya:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:22 PM
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8. :claps hands furiously:
I BELIEVE! I BELIEVE!!

oh wait, that's how you save tinkerbell....damn. :(

dg
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:26 PM
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17. Does this mean you have some insider info on the return of
Sparky?
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:00 PM
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18. Nope...
I'm just hoping that he's lurking and feeling damned guilty about not showing up like he promised!!!

C'mon, Sparky - all recovery and no play makes - well, it makes ME a dull cheese. :(
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:17 PM
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6. i will be in the Bleever pond close to Gull Bay
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 02:18 PM by Botany
We know the speech already

1. He will declare victory and start to pull out. Guaranteed
2. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
3. I had to spy because of #2
4. The elections were a success :rofl:
5. As the Iraqis stand up we will stand down
6. I mourn the heavy priced paid by the families whose members I have sent off to die in that
God forsaken hell hole in what is without a doubt the biggest mistake in US history excluding
slavery and genocide of the native people, hell you known that I am a shit wit who thought
Daddy could kick Iraqi butt in 3 days .... I will show him I will do it too it will be easy ..... and
right now I am pissing in my pants. he might not say all that
7. America and the world is safer w/ Saddam gone
8. bad intel, Bill Clinton, the dems, and the UN made me invade Iraq
9. Crispini and her cuffs helps the "terrrrr ..... ists
10. accept the blame but then shift it to others
11. ?????? Rummy is stepping down and Joe Lieberman is taking his place.



A picture from a Wisconsin bathroom?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:23 PM
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9. and families of dead soldiers
should be grateful their loved ones aren't shipped home COD.

:grr:

dg
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:30 PM
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10. The man is without shame ....
He is on record in 1998 or 1999 as talking about an Iraqi war when he became President.
And yet he keeps spewing the bullshit about how the war was a last option and how
bad he feels for the dead and wounded but 9/11 made Iraq the central focus of the
war on terror and he just had to do it.

I forgot Osoma bin Laden will not be mentioned at all.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:51 PM
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11. LOL, Botany, your pictures take the cake.
And I always KNEW I was on SOMEBODY's "enemies list." ;)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:27 PM
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13. Go to the Bay Air thread .....
..... pay back for the wheel treatment. LOL
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:59 PM
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19. Everyone here?
Vomit recepticles at the ready?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:02 PM
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20. Me
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 09:08 PM by Botany
Lies started :puke:

click em off
1. He will declare victory and start to pull out. Guaranteed
2. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 Xxxx
3. I had to spy because of #2
4. The elections were a success xxxx
5. As the Iraqis stand up we will stand down
6. I mourn the heavy priced paid by the families whose members I have sent off to die in that
God forsaken hell hole in what is without a doubt the biggest mistake in US history excluding
slavery and genocide of the native people, hell you known that I am a shit wit who thought
Daddy could kick Iraqi butt in 3 days .... I will show him I will do it too it will be easy ..... and
right now I am pissing in my pants. he might not say all that
7. America and the world is safer w/ Saddam gone XXX
8. bad intel, Bill Clinton, the dems, and the UN made me invade Iraq
9. Crispini and her cuffs helps the "terrrrr ..... ists
10. accept the blame but then shift it to others xxxxx
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:05 PM
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21. Come to the other thread
He's looking crazy.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:08 PM
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23. where?
buddy
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:09 PM
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24. Hi Pats- where is the other thread?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:08 PM
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22. Hi everyone- the Chimp is on an I'm scared.
:scared:
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