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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 10:19 PM
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Oh Crap! I just found large sections of my Grand-Aunt's NON-fiction Manuscript on Google Books!
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 10:36 PM by Up2Late
Her True, First-Person, UN-Published Manuscript, about how she survived the 16 months she spent, from October 1943 to January 1945, in a little known Nazi Labor Camp and eventual transfer to Auschwitz-Berkinow, in an excerpt from my Dad's 2nd Cousin's, really stupid, FICTION book on Google Books!

Her book, Btw, that I just started thinking about editing and publishing in some form, and that I am currently researching, and several people in the DU I/P forum have encouraged me to try to get published, if for no other reason than for it's historic value and what it adds to the historical record of the time, but now what!? :banghead:

I mean, my Dad sent his Second Cousin a copy of the manuscript to read (we did not grant him any Copyrights), not to plagiarize large sections of it for his stupid novel about, and I kid you NOT on this one, about a guy who FARTS a lot! It's called "P.I.G. {Petrified Intestinal Gas} an inflated life story." (Please do NOT buy this book, it's really stupid!)

The author (my Dad's 2nd Cousin) BTW, committed suicide in 2005 or 2006 (I can't remember which), and my Grand-Aunt, the author of the historical, first person account of her time as Nazi Political Prisoner, died in 1973 (She was also a non-practicing Jew, but we are fairly sure she was picked up for her work in the French Resistance, not because she was Jewish). And to add to that, I just met his Sister (the author of the stupid Fictional book's Sister, who's also my Dad's 2nd Cousin) and her husband on my trip, last month, to Germany, and they are both very nice people, but this is just wrong.

I really want that excerpt off of Google Books, especially because it's published within a FICTION book, which implies that it also is FICTION, which it is not! It's a True, First-Person, yet to be published, Holocaust survivor story which, I think, would add greatly to the Historical Record, but NOW... :argh:

I'm not sure what to do. My Mom thinks I should just drop this for a while, but I don't agree. Any advice would be helpful. :shrug:

BTW, I'm probably going to cross-post this to the Book:Non-Fiction Group and the Jewish Group, and as an update to my previous post about this project from a few weeks ago in the I/P Forum too.

You can read my previous post about this project at this links below, in my DU Journal:


<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=164806&mesg_id=164806>

<http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Up2Late>

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:26 PM
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1. You should deffinitely pursue this! n/t
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:49 PM
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2. I really think you should check out your options
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 02:52 PM by blueraven95
my suggestion - consult a lawyer. I'm pretty sure that Google has taken off books that are indispute just so they avoid a law suit. I don't know what, if anything, you can actually do but it doesn't hurt to research it.

You should probably be aware that any fight over this may cause a rift in the family, so you need to be prepared for that as well, before you start any concrete action.

edit to say: I totally understand where you are coming from - it would drive me crazy to think that a non-fictional account was being seen as fictional, particularly when its about such serious matters. This is a situation where this material could be used by less than scrupulous people to suggest that historical events are manufactured.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:12 PM
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3. Exactly, I mean the Holocaust deniers have enough "evidence" already, I don't want to be the source
...of more, or get attacked by those jerks, after spending the time to publish this, when they some how find my Dad's 2nd Cousin's stupid book (and really, stupid is giving it a lot of credit).

The worst part is, I looked up the Forced Labor, looted possessions, Sorting Warehouse where they forced her to work in Central Paris, and the train station is still there! I don't know about the Warehouse building, but there is NO mention of that part of the sites history on Wikipedia or just about anywhere else on the internet. I was planning to add something to Wikipedia, but then I ran into this problem, so I've had to put that on hold.

One of the saddest things I found, while researching this is, the first time my Dad and I visited some of his French 2nd Cousins in Paris, we were (and her Cousin lived) only 1 or 2 Metro stops North of the Train Station, in Paris, where the sorting warehouse was and where she was forced into labor, but we didn't even know that, so we didn't visit the place.

I'm not Jewish (I consider myself Tibetan Buddhist) but I've been thinking and wondering if I took this problem to a local Rabbi, who could then help me connect with a more connected Rabbi and sort of move up the temple hierarchy until I get to someone at an organization like the Anti-Defamation League or a similar group, who deal with this sort of problem.

I don't know how the Jewish religion is set up past the Temple level, and my Dad wasn't raised Jewish either, but my sister just converted to, I think "Reformed" Judaism, so maybe I'll ask her about that, plus we have a Jewish Museum here in Atlanta, so maybe they could help too.:shrug:
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:14 PM
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4. If you are seeking Jewish community support
I'd start first at a Jewish museum or the Judaic studies department at a local university. First of all, the folks at the museum will be more knowledgeable about archival materials and such. They may also be able to help you with getting the memoirs published. A rabbi wont really be of much help in this area.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:15 AM
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5. Thanks, that sound like a good plan. I'm not positive, but I think Emory University has...
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 01:16 AM by Up2Late
...a pretty good Religious Studies Department and here's the link (and a little plug for) the local Jewish Heritage Museum, here in Atlanta called
"The Breman Museum": <http://www.thebreman.org/>

I didn't even know we had a Jewish Heritage Museum here in Atlanta, so if nothing else, I am learning a lot while doing the research for all this.
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