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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:30 PM
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Is Obama running the most racist presidential campaign since Reagan in 1980?
The most obvious thing is Obama's national co-chair asking black superdelegates to vote for him solely because Obama is black (and Hillary is white) and if they didn't they "may" face a primary challenge. Jesse Jackson Jr. was busted doing this. Does anyone believe JJJ was a lone wolf? He had to be carrying out Obama's orders and surely there must be other Obama cronies doing the same, witness Michael Nutter's defensive position on endorsing Hillary.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:51 PM
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1. It's the underlying current of his campaign.
Many of his supporters have fallen for it hook, line and sinker and mimicking him. You cannot say anything slightly negative and substantiated about obama without the race innuendo being thrown into it. Its ridiculous.

I don't understand why his 'white' side is not brought up. He is an interracial man, there is nothing wrong with that. He is ONLY a black man.

Did you be any chance read the Asia Times article on obama? quite a fascinating read.


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:56 PM
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2. There are so many examples that could be mentioned....
it would take me all night.

But, yes... he is! And I ain't buyin'
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:02 PM
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3. Absolutely - would take all night. But he is. eom
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:16 PM
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4. from the right wing
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 09:35 PM by Two Americas
I think the crap is originating with right wing dirty tricks campaigns, and then Obama supporters are spreading it. I think we are all being played. I am not so sure that there is a cynical and organized intentional effort from the Obama campaign to cause this mess we are seeing.

By the way, "reverse racism" is a non starter - a creation of the right wing propaganda mills - so appeals for Black unity or solidarity, or criticisms of white supremacy and white attitudes that happen to come from Black people are not properly called "racist."

The right wing has decided that Obama will be easier to defeat than Clinton, and are using the Obama zealots as tools to take down Clinton. Obama gets something of a pass now, because they are saving their ammunition against him for the general. Obama zealots are so emotional now, and so worked up and so anxious to grab onto anything to hurt Clinton, that they can easily be fed right wing bullshit, which they then take in uncritically and spread around.




on edit - typo
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:20 PM
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5. I disagree and evidence shows that Obama is pushing the race baiting. eom
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:31 PM
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6. can you explain?
I didn't say that it isn't originating with the campaign, I said I was not certain that it was.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:59 PM
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7. I don't have days.
However, start at the beginning of Obama's race. He began by creating a generational war because he knew he needed the younger (non-Dem) voters. Read the New York Times article from last January (2007). Its the "baby boomers need to get over themselves" article. Those boomers are the reason he got to go to a private school and run for President - showing him to be either a fucking ignorant ingrate or just simply ignorant of the American experience. It was a sinister and cynical beginning.

He started the race baiting when he unexpectedly lost New Hampshire. He absolutely had to win S.C. In order to do that, he had to get the black vote so he did two things. (1) He needed a certain homophobic demographic - otherwise known as AA fundamentalists in S.C. - the group that truly believes being gay is a life style and a choice. He got that group with x-gay ministers and homophobic singing groups. (2)Jesse Jackson Sr. (and others behind and in front of the camera) began to pound the press with assertions that Bill Clinton's comments on Obama's Iraq War voting record was racist. The media (with David's and Obama's minions screaming at them) completely misquoted Hillary's comments on MLK and LBJ by removing two sentences that made the Obama and media crap a complete lie. Jesse Jackson, Jr.(Obama's national co-chair) was on tv (MSNBC) the next day after N.H. with a racist and sexist diatribe against Hillary.

Please note: Rahm Emanuel (who is planning on getting Obama's senate seat) and Ted Kennedy (prior to his endorsement of Obama) both called up Bill Clinton and told him to knock it off. Then they called in the press to tell them how they (as Bill's friend) had told him to stop. Both, as we later found out - had ulterior motives because they were already coordinating with the Obama campaign.

Much more, but just two days ago - after flogging it forever (13 days) they got the Geraldine Ferraro story aired on tv.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 03:25 AM
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12. thanks
It seems thin to me to argue that there is a consistent race-baiting theme there that is originating from the Obama campaign.

Obama supporters are certainly using the issue of race in a dishonest and destructive way, as I have strongly commented on at several of their GD-P Clinton bashing threads.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:26 PM
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9. seach McCamy Taylor--she has done some good work on this. several parts to her work.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:15 PM
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8. Yes, he is.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:39 AM
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10. Obama knows EXACTLY
what he is doing. He puts on an air of reasonableness, cocking his head and speaking like he's putting a lot of thought into what he's saying. It's all an act.

Everything that's happened has been carefully planned out. Clever, but evil. Obama's message is carefully controlled and everything comes from the top.

Strong-arm tactics have been and ARE being used to intimidate the Super Delegates. MSM has been ignoring it and I don't expect them to have the courage to publicize it.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:05 AM
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13. You are correct....
It took me a while to come around and see what he was doing. But, that footage of him reciting Malcolm X and laughing about it.... I got the picture. Loud and clear. His campaign is ALL ABOUT RACE.

What he is stoking is dangerous. Lives will be lost over it. We ain't seen nothing yet, I'm afraid.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:56 AM
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11.  I have to say
I am still deeply saddened by this turnabout. I wish we would progress pass this archaic mentality of people basing their decisions on religion, who you want to a beer with......

We need to speak about getting back on track and how we are going to do it. Getting us out of Iraq, Equal Rights, Economy, Education, Global Worming and so much more......

We do have an incredible opportunity as Democrats, We have a woman and a 'black' man (he is still a man, I do not care about his skin color)
vying for the nomination and of course John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, Mike Gravel. ( am sorry if I missed anyone)

We are witnessing history. And we have wonderful candidates and I am proud of them.

God Bless all of them.


But its still Hillary Clinton for me.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:18 AM
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14. yes ... absolutely.
one of obama's tenets is, "why be principled when everyone else is being pragmatic." in other words, he means don't matter as long as you get the end that you want. it also means, find whoever will voice whatever as long as you benefit from it. in this being pragmatic means that making the opponent appear as racists and race-baiters benefits obama. it means that he doesn't have to make the charges himself, all he has to do is find those who will lead the charge for him, and he has found plenty of mouths who will do that; and all he has to do is sit back--not deny it, throw some fuel into the pyre, such as, "those were unfortunate words uttered," and sit back like a cool reptile and wait for the poison to work its magic. he is a snake in the lurk and he knows damn well what he is doing.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:29 AM
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15. Yes.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:59 AM
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16. A definite YES!!!
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