Excuse a small rant

So my daughter, who spent a number of years in the military has taken to wearing pink on occasion. No, not because of breast cancer, or any other worthy cause.

Because
1)She is currently running shipping and receiving in a small aerospace company, a "non-traditional" (I hate that term) women's job 2) She's in spectacular shape, lithe and beautifully muscled. No, not the body builder type even thought that's not my point. 3) Because of 1 and 2, she gets a lot of lesbian jokes.

As a straight women, she's confident enough in her own sexuality so doesn't really care, the pink is actually a small joke on her point. She just rolls her eyes at the offenders and says thing like "well you know how WE are" Her years in the military have taught her to pick her battles, although if it was me it would go right in the hostile work environment category. Perhaps I should mention she's very attractive. And she doesn't play. Girl is tough.

But really what the fuck? Women can't be strong, have muscles, without being gay? Or maybe the only acceptable gay women are 18 years old girl's gone wild types for male viewing pleasure? Or the so called "lipstick lesbians" Another very offensive term to me, but that's just my opinion. If a lesbian wants to wear lipstick who gives a shit? What, they need a entire category?

Anyway, I'm built the same way but the days of people giving me shit about it are long gone, although I still get certain women who say they want to be in shape but are afraid of "getting too muscular" I usually tell them that there are hormonal limits to that kind of thing and a basic workout program is not going to bulk them up. Even I, for who staying in muscular shape is fairly easy, have limits to actual bulk, unless I change my program.

Lesbian. Idiots. Besides it's none of their business if she were.

I only have to deal with that but not as bad when I see some extended family which is about once a year. Most of them (but not my parents fortunately) are pretty conservative so any woman who isn't desperately trying to find a man so she can get married and have kids must be a lesbian or the old "have something wrong with her." I always get these "Oh don't worry you'll find someone" comments since I couldn't possibly be happy otherwise. Or strange looks seeing as I'm fairly muscular myself and don't dress in a "feminine" manner or wear much make up. It's just a stereotype based on outer appearance.

I can't imagine having to deal with that at work every day in a permanent position- she's obviously very tough and probably has more patience than I do. I had a college job over several breaks loading luggage at an airport that was a similar environment being mostly men. Not so much the lesbian assumption but having my name be "girlie." It did stop with some guys when they discovered I could lift as much or more than they could. :)

And yes, what business is it of theirs if she was a lesbian? All I care about with my coworkers is if they pull their weight and do it well which is probably all they care about with me.

She wears make up, not much, but she does. She dresses appropriately for warehouse work. Jeans, tee shirts and the like. She's cute as hell, so I'm wondering if that's part of the problem. Both the females and males seem to have a difficult time accepting that she is very strong, very assertive, tends to avoid company politics, knows her stuff--I mean the girl did similar work in Afghanistan in greater danger and in far more stress. Not to mention supervising off loading of military equipment which is, I'm sure very expensive, in comparison to what she handles now.

For a company picture, one of the "office" woman told her something to the effect of "well you know you'll have to dress professionally, like in a suit, I mean I'm not sure if you have anything like that..." Unlike me, she loves clothes, has clothes for every occasion. Loves to shop (She SURE didn't get that from me, more likely my sister) This woman made assumptions based on, I don't even know what. Stupid.

So she's an odd combination of "traditional" femininity and in your face strength and competency. For example, She'll wear high heels, ONLY if she's going out, and isn't planning on walking. Doesn't understand women who choose high heels for 8 hours days. She doesn't get the whole "need a man to be complete" concept and has a certain pity for women who tend to feel this way, and contempt for men with that attitude.

Oh well. Pink it is.

...a teenaged girl from a troubled home, that hugged other kids (probably in an effort to obtain the affection she wasn't getting at home)--and being called a lesbian for it, (by other kids). :eyes:

Saw this scenario in a group counseling situation, and observed the kid at school. Really interesting (and disturbing) what youth are taught about sexuality. What they've somehow learned to deem as someone "coming on" to them--yet blow jobs aren't really sex. :crazy:

Apparently, your daughter is working with adults with such ideas. It shows that people don't really "outgrow" such ignorance.

Used to be, if a woman wasn't married/has a boyfriend, then "she couldn't get anybody." Now a lot of idiots think "she must be a lesbian," if she doesn't choose to be married or in a relationship.

lesbian' look or talk, I happily say: 'Don't for one second think I haven't wished I were a lesbian since their relationships last longer than the hetero ones. But I guess the right wing religious freaks are wrong, one simply can't choose her sexual orientation. And btw if you (speaking to a man) have looked in a mirror lately, you'd know damn well why I'm not married. Cary Grant/Jimmy Stewart and all those like them are dead and gone...all that's left are the Homer Simpsons. Now don't you have a few donuts waiting for you somewhere?'

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LOVE this!

and then to say it in a smiling and kindly way took more. I should have a set a Old Maid cards made up and the player who ends up with her WINS...and hand those out as well!

One of the guys she works with is an bigger idiot than others and THAT is perfect.