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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:43 PM
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7PM ET 60 Minutes next big bombshell against Bush case for war
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 04:43 PM by Terran1212
CIA Agent will tell about how their warnings to Bush of no WMD were ignored because "it isn't about intel anymore"

Be sure to watch!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:44 PM
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1. Thanks!
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:53 PM
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6. I only hope people watch it!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:45 PM
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2. K&R
Not that Joe-Lunchbox-Fox-News-Watcher will give two shits, but if one person is reached and persuaded...:thumbsup:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:45 PM
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3. I already had the reminder set on the TV. Most of the time,
I like 60 Mins. They do a decenet job, and I like Andy Rooney!
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:23 PM
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8. I like Andy Rooney's cute curmudgeon thing on 60 Minutes, but...
...he seems like a remarkably unpleasant man otherwise. David Letterman has been quoted as saying that he thought Rooney a major disappointment the first time he interviewed him back at NBC -- snarky and surly, and downright uncommunicative.

I just saw him being interviewed on "Da Ali G Show", and either he found Sacha Baron Cohen really convincing, or he doesn't appreciate satirical silliness for its own sake, or he's just a nasty old coot with no discernible sense of humour. More or less, his attitude was "I don't have time for this" -- that is, when he wasn't actually correcting Ali G's English.

Even Pat Buchanan was nicer to Ali G than Andy Rooney was, perhaps because he understood what was going on. Gore Vidal got the joke, too.

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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:46 PM
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4. Is that CBS? n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:26 PM
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10. yes.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:24 PM
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35. thanks so much--
I tivo'd and just watched it. Wow!
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:46 PM
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5. Sure bush won't interrupt
with a llllooooonnnnnnggggg special announcement?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:10 PM
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7. Thanks for the heads up. This one sounds like a keeper.
:hi:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:25 PM
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9. How many more need to come forward?
If people don't get it by now - Richard Clarke, Joe Wilson, Paul O'Neill et al (lots) - then when will they? I hope this hardens those who criticize Bush. The hard core one-third that supports him will never, ever change, no matter what. But the 60 percent who have had it - the number that despise, not merely criticize, needs to go up.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:05 PM
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11. K & R... here we go n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:18 PM
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12. I'm hearin it!
woot!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:20 PM
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13. Bartlett's statement was VERY disingenuous!!!
His statement that a bipartisan commission...determined that no influence by the White House on the outcome of intelligence was found.


Well, asshole, Phase II of the Senate Select Investigative Committee's report is supposed to determine that and we STILL don't have that report!

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:38 AM
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43. Senator Pat Roberts is the reason the truth can not be told
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:49 AM
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44. RawStory reported the Phase II report was due soon..but...
Roberts, I believe, was quoted as saying he wants to "move forward" and look to Iran.

Something tells me the report either contains some damning info and they will try to keep it quiet or they managed to whitewash it completely and want to move forward on spiking the punch so Iran can be attacked.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:20 PM
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14. Another bombshell. No matter how many times this is brought up
with people coming out and speaking, it doesn't seem to stick with MSM... Look at the Downing Street Minutes and the latest memo out of the UK.... nada, nothing becomes of it. They let it fade into the background.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:22 PM
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15. Yeah there is nothing in this story I havent heard on MANY AAR shows
But, it's good to hear it in the MSM.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:29 PM
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23. I dunno, I never heard that the State Dept. totally rejected
the Niger docs, I listen to Talk Left on Sirius and I know that the CIA had top level leak
in Sadaam's cabinet but I never heard how the WH shut off when the info was not in support
of their policy or that the State Dept. had categorically rejected the Niger documents as
bogus or that the UN had declared them forgeries before we marched on Baghdad.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:35 AM
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40. Kicked and recommended
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:22 PM
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16. "greatest policy mistakes of all time" What a huge understatement
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 06:22 PM by Robbien
Criminal action not wimpy "policy mistake".
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:23 PM
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17. Cripes!!! i forgot about it. Where will it be posted on the i-net?
anyone??? Will Crooks have the entire segment?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:24 PM
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18. How much clearer does it have to get???????????!!!!!!...
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:26 PM
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19. Finally the MSM shows some cojones...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:27 PM
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20. excellent segment.
It covered everything and proved thousands died over bush's lies.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:31 PM
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21. Sumner Redstone/Viacom board must be doing cartwheels !
Those rogue elements at 60 Minutes (actually 45 if you count commercials) must be stopped ! The truth mustn't get out.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:57 PM
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30. :p
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:33 PM
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22. This segment alone shows cause for impeachment!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:49 PM
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25. I agree. ....n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:31 PM
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24. Lying in the SOTU is literally TREASON
But of course, Bushistas will continue to say "he couldn't have known! Our president wouldn't do that!" In fact, it's not even Bushistas, I think Americans in general have a hard time accepting the fact that our president could intentionally commit treason in order to start a war. To believe that would force them to accept that we really do have a criminal in office, and that we're living in Banana Republic. It is simply too much for most to wrap their heads around.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:50 PM
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26. It's not the first time we've had a criminal in office...
caught in his criminal activities.

If it happened before, why are they so incredulous that it could happen again?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:52 PM
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27. Apparently, Butler's report referred to a uranium purchase from Chad.
That's the technicality they'll use to wiggle out of it.

Anyone ever heard of this Chad deal?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:54 PM
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28. knr. This was very good. ....n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 07:54 PM
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29. The most telling statement of his was about his family members
Something along the lines of his family members believing * over him re: this issue.

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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:01 PM
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31. Does CBS have transcripts?
I missed it! Crap!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:10 PM
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33. Let me know what you find, I was busy also.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:06 PM
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47. Here
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 08:03 PM
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32. This alone should spark congressional investigations.
I'm sure Bill Frist is planning on holding them soon..:sarcasm:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:38 PM
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34. Damn right this should spark investigation. Hell, they should be ON FIRE
with investigations by now! :mad:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:34 PM
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36. If what was said on 20/20 was repeated under oath it's a court case
Like that bimbo who boasted in the Inquirer of being the the person who shot-up John Belushi before the police finally said, duh! - and she was convicted and did time. -- It seems like instant replay with the 20/20 piece, especially watching Bush use Niger info as solid proof for arguement to kill 2400 more US. citizens and 100,000+ Iraqi civilians. this is so deep!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:59 PM
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37. I saw it. Too bad they didn't run it years ago. Better late.....
But it was good.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:45 AM
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38. Condensed video here...
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:13 AM
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39. Thanks for the link. I missed the show.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:54 AM
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45. me too. Thanks!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 07:57 AM
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41. I hope a lot of sheepies were watching.



And I hope this was a good wake-up call for them. That was the retired head of covert CIA ops in Europe saying the Executive Branch of the US government willfully and knowingly deceived the American people, not just some low-level staffer.



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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:35 AM
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42. Yes - Tyler Drumheller was CIA's European chief during the runup to war

Bush was warned there were no WMD, says former CIA man



By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
Published: 24 April 2006

The Central Intelligence Agency tried to warn the Bush administration on the eve of the 2003 invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein did not appear to have weapons of mass destruction but the warning was dismissed because the US political leadership was not interested in what the intelligence showed, according to a retired senior CIA operative.

The revelation, by the CIA's former European chief Tyler Drumheller, was broadcast on CBS's news magazine Sixty Minutes last night and added to the body of evidence that US and British leaders saw the weapons of mass destruction issue only as a selling point for a war they had already decided to wage for other reasons.

According to Mr Drumheller, Western intelligence services were told about Iraq's lack of chemical and biological weapons by Naji Sabri, a former Iraqi foreign minister. The CIA director of the time, George Tenet, took this information straight to President George Bush, Vice-President Dick Cheney and other senior officials, but it made no impression on them.

The Central Intelligence Agency tried to warn the Bush administration on the eve of the 2003 invasion of Iraq that Saddam Hussein did not appear to have weapons of mass destruction but the warning was dismissed because the US political leadership was not interested in what the intelligence showed, according to a retired senior CIA operative.

The revelation, by the CIA's former European chief Tyler Drumheller, was broadcast on CBS's news magazine Sixty Minutes last night and added to the body of evidence that US and British leaders saw the weapons of mass destruction issue only as a selling point for a war they had already decided to wage for other reasons.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article359755.ece



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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:34 AM
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46. It was good.
Finally. It took thyem long enough but they're starting to report a little.
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