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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:51 PM
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A "citizens' action" idea that WILL have an effect on gasoline prices.
Forget the dumb ideas like boycotting one or more brands of gasoline. Screw the stupid ideas about putting stickers on the gas pumps.

THIS will work, and I even came up with a snappy name (sorry in advance if someone else thought of it first):

Stay-home Sundays.

Doesn't even have to be every week, though that would be good. Just twice a month, don't drive on Sunday. Period.

If enough people did that, consumption will drop enough to trigger the old supply-and-demand equation.

How hard can it be? And think of the other benefits: Less traffic noise, health benefits if you walk or ride a bike to go to church or whever else you might want to go on those Sundays...and hey, you might get to know your family or even your neighbors a bit better if you're not all spending the day charging around in cars.

Twice a month. One more time: How hard can it be?

Redstone
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:55 PM
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1. Great idea!
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:55 PM
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2. How silly
May as well write a message on the net advocating teleportation Sundays.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:57 PM
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3. Great idea!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:59 PM
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4. Yeah, I know. People would rather bitch and complain and dream up
silly, pointless "let's boycott Exxon!" schemes, and bitch and complain some more, rather than, well, I don't know, use less gasoline.

But I thought I'd try anyway...sigh.

Redstone
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:07 AM
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5. Advocating using less gasoline is one thing. Limiting that effort to
Sunday driving is just "silly." People are not going to be "driven" to reduce consumption by some sort of PR blitz. Practical economics is doing that already. And further, on the "silly" aspect, the idea that monopoly pricing has anything at all to do with supply and demand is hopelessly naive.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:11 AM
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6. OK, well, fuck it then.
Everyone just keep driving as much as you want to, and I'll shut up my silly mouth.

But don't bitch to me about the prices.

Redstone
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:18 AM
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7. I wasn't intending to disparage your good intentions,
just the assumption the we live in a free market society where prices are negotiable between buyers and sellers based on supply and demand. No personal offense intended.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:25 AM
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11. Any port in a storm!
Way to go Redstone. Your suggestion has merit on a couple of levels. First it would actually reduce consumption (and that's a good thing, no matter what the amount is). Second we need to start coordinating and focusing our efforts in positive ways. This a great place to start.

And BTW, keep coming up with ideas like this, gives scoffers something to do.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:52 AM
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16. Here's another silly idea
:kick: & recommend
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:26 AM
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12. do you have any evidence that this is monopoly pricing?
and why haven't they been doing that for longer than 5 or so years? Frankly, I'm trying to figure out what in the hell is going on so if you think you know, I'm all ears. I've heard demand is way up globally, there's not enough refining capacity, price gouging, speculators are driving up costs. I think short supply of oil is out as a reason. I've heard someone on TV say that if we reduced our demand by 3%, prices would nosedive. Hard for me to believe that, but worth a try anyway.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 01:23 AM
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19. You can read through this to get a hint anout "how things work."
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:54 AM
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17. I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about!
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 01:16 AM
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18. Thank you for your kind words (nt)
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:19 AM
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8. Great idea
anything that involves people not driving when otherwise they would is a good thing, especially on a massive scale.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:20 AM
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9. I don't drive that many miles a year, less than 5k,
but lately, I've been driving less. I walk more, feel better, and save $$$!

btw, how's your fast going, Redstone?

:hi:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 02:15 PM
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21. I went the whole five days without any problems, thanks for asking.
Surprisingly easy, considering that I do enjoy eating. I think it might have done something good for my eyesight, because I can see better without my glasses than with, all of a sudden.

And we're like you; we use only 12 gallons of gasoline a week between the two cars. But we're still riding the bikes more than last year, and as much as possible. Easy for us, because we live in town. Might not be so easy for people in the 'burbs, but I still think the stay-home idea is a good one.

And, folks, stop mowing your goddamn lawn every single week, would you? Twice a month works just fine.

Redstone
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:22 AM
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10. Idea: Why doesn't bush ask everyone to conserve? That would work.
Oh wait, Farenheit 9/11: The BUSH family works for the SAUDIs.

Never mind. Sorry about those high prices, I try to conserve.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:40 AM
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13. Oh gosh, why not both
Don't drive on Sundays. Don't buy gas from Exxon.

How hard can that be???
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:44 AM
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14. We protest the war every Sunday
Sorry - no can do.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 12:47 AM
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15. It's not hard to do
I do it every Sunday already.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:06 AM
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20. a suggestion for businesses
won't work for all work places - but enough of them will make a difference

switch to a 4-day/10 hour work week. Cuts commute time out by one day.

regarding gas gougers: Most gas gougers get slapped with a small fine. But it's a drop in the 'tank' compared to how much they are racking in.

my suggestion:
-- station has to empty their tanks by giving away the remaining gas FREE
-- station is prohibited from selling gas for "x" amount of time (3-6 months?)

if it's gouging at the oil company source - then they have to sell their gas to the station owners at 1/2 market price for 'x amount of time'
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