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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:28 AM
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Question about illegal immigration
What is the point of making a law that says undocumented immigrants who have been here less than 5 years must go home? We can't manage to identify and send home the undocumented immigrants now. What's the point of having a law that you have no idea how to enforce? (I'm a yellow dog Democrat, and I don't even know what position most Dems take on this issue, so hope I haven't offended anyone.)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:03 AM
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1. what's wrong w. enforcing the law?
if there are not sufficient folks to enforce the law, why not hire those folks, god knows people need jobs

there seems to be infinite money to spend on persecuting me for buying allergy medicine but no money to spend stopping my rich fascist neighbors from hiring illegal aliens to cut their grass at slave wages

sorry if you want to fight for the right of the rich GOPers to hire slaves and undercut wages for the rest of us, make a better argument than this

we have trillions to go to war w. iraq

seems like spending a few more millions to hire a few more guys to secure the border and investigate hiring people off the books would be money well spent

it protects wages of the legal residents and citizens, who pay taxes if they have work, and in any case for security reasons you don't just sit on your hands and say boo hoo we can never secure the border against everyone so we can't be arsed to secure it against anyone, that is illogical jim, it's said bin ladin spent a few hundred thousand dollars on the sept. 11 attacks, why not make it a little more difficult to get in here legally and force the bad guy to spend more of his effort and financial resources?

online and on teevee they say, "americans are lazy" but in person what they say is "n-words are lazy" -- and that is what is really all abt at bottom, god forbid a black man should ever be able to get a job, i can't believe how often i have heard this statement made in the aftermath of katrina by people who are frankly profiting because they would rather hire an illegal living in the back of a truck or a tent than a local, there is a lot of racism at the bottom of this let's grant amnesty to everyone who has broken the law long enough

agh, don't get me started

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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:38 AM
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3. Really didn't intend to defend anyone,
for sure not Rethuglicans. Nothing wrong with enforcing the law, but just passing an additional law will not enforce existing law. And you're right, the problem is not people immigrating, but chickenshit employers importing cheap labor, for whom they do not have to pay FICA or withhold income tax. I really don't think many illegals get here under their own steam. And how about the truck found full of dead Mexicans? Did they ever find and prosecute the guys who did that, and if so, were they convicted of first degree murder?

Anyway, all I meant in my OP was that saying you plan to deport people doesn't solve the problem, nor does it address the cause. I like your idea of creating jobs by hiring more people to guard the borders.
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VirtualChicano Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:11 AM
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2. The problem
with illegal aliens is that they've been lied to for so long they think this is their country.

The sooner we send them back to Europe the better!

And GOD, their anchor babies, UGH!

Don't get me started!
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