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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:15 PM
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Oh MAN, Ed Helms piece on The Daily Show, another must see!
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 10:15 PM by Up2Late
He did a piece on the plight of Auto-re-elected Congress people!

And the "Uncomfortable Hug", OMG!

Replay at 1:00am ET:evilgrin:
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:19 PM
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1. And again two more times
Check your local stations for times
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:19 PM
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2. You're a real good hugger
That, and the lobbyists can get you ... list was a knock out!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:30 PM
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7. That was a great list, and don't be...
...a Playa Hate-a (sp?)

But skip the guest interview, some young blondy from "The Wall Street Journal" Editorial Board, lying her skinny little ass off. :grr:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:25 PM
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3. Who is this idiot from the Wall Street Journal?
She will go down, in my book, as one of the most annoying guests ever.
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:27 PM
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4. Jon wiped the floor with her. She couldn't defend her points...
to save her life. That's the problem with the Repuke talking points. They're points. When they're forced to explain and justify them they stumble all over themselves.

Well done, Jon!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:28 PM
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5. aMEN! what an ass. she had NO answer for Stewart's unanswerable
question:

if they aren't making any extra money, why have their profits gone up so much, so fast? then he played dumb to help her out when she couldn't explain the obscene profit margins that do NOT result from market forces
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:36 PM
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14. Forgive me
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 10:37 PM by Chico Man
But aren't they making profits on oil that they bought when the market was down? Kind of like when you buy a house, and sell it for a profit?

All the gas in those tankers had to come at some cost. When it is sold, it is either higher or lower.. depending on the world oil market..

When the oil companies buy crude, they do so at a fair risk, they may lose or gain on the deal. So the profits are really due to the price of crude in the world market, not some bloated prices set by the energy companies at the pump.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:44 PM
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15. you got the first part right....
the part about buying something and taking a risk on future value, which is never going to go down in anything but tiny dips, as the increases go ever higher. they may take some short-term hits, but they're the house in Vegas. they never lose. do they?

but the game is rigged in their favor, especially now. this explains it better than I can:

We are led to believe by the oilpatch pundits that company profits are fair reflection of free markets at work. They are not! Oil, more than any other major commodity is a rigged market and the oil companies are riding the coattails of this manipulation to ever greedier levels by taxing us, the public, by selling us back the nations natural resources, gas and oil, at profit levels that have little or nothing to do with the cost of production. This while paying the government royalties that according to a recent "NYTimes" (January 23,2006) article have become in essence an oilpatch boondoggle where prices reported to Government agencies on transfer values are so rigged or illusionary they have little to do with actual sales prices to legitimate third parties or end consumers.

How is this possible? First the royalty system is a patchwork of an oil friendly administration and the influence of "K" Street lobbyists permitting oil and gas extraction on public lands and Coastal waterways at minimal benefit to the public, the presumptive owners of these resources and for maximum benefit to the oil companies and their shareholders. The Public gets hit twice. First the transfer of title to the resources is tantamount to a giveaway at todays prices, and then the public has to buy back the resources in the form of product at rigged market levels.

The rigging of prices is done outside the purview of our present laws to the enormous benefit of the oilpatch. To achieve high prices and profits our and other international oil compnies do not need to collude. Would they, then they would be subject to civil and criminal charges under our anti-trust laws. But they have a better method, the OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) cartel does it for them. OPEC controls some 40% of the Worlds oil production, enough of a corner on the market to have a major influence on prices by restraining production or making us believe they have reached the limits of their capabilities.

What our oilpatch has done is to piggyback on the OPEC cartels' machinations while being the OPEC cartels' biggest cheerleader and singing its song to us, the ever gullible public, that the OPEC cartel is simply the manifestation of market forces, and a kindly group of nations struggling to meet our energy needs. All the while prices go up, oil company profits increase without the oil companies adding any economic value to their product. A gallon of gas takes your car only so far whether you pay $1.50 a gallon or $2.75.

And if you are an oil producer as well as refiner, as many oil companies are, the difference is pure gravy, ergo the earnings reports we are seeing now. Take the oilpatch to Las Vegas and these guys would be railroaded out of town!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j-learsy/oil-company-profits-and-o_b_14495.html

plenty more here
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:47 PM
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16. does this make sense...just thought of it
if their costs have gone up concomitantly with their revenues, would their profits have expanded at such acclerated rates in the last few years?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:19 AM
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18. Do you have that in English, reading that's making my brain hurt.
And referring to your question below, the falling value of the Dollar helps them too.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:38 AM
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19. Interesting, thx.
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Hazelrah Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:28 PM
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6. I was yelling bulls**t at the screen
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 10:30 PM by hazel_rah
and was so happy when Jon said it for me.

:bounce:

on edit: not spell so good when tired.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:32 PM
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9. Thank goodness the FCC doesn't regulate indencency...
...on cable TV.

The word "bullshit" was needed.
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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:32 PM
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10. I can't wait to see him tonight!
:bounce:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:31 PM
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8. Jon did really well with her
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:33 PM
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12. You have to know that anyone from the WSJ editorial staff is going to be
an asshat!!! :puke:
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:33 PM
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11. Earl Blumenauer was a good sport and Charlie Stenholm was a riot! n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:35 PM
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13. what about "The Decider" comic? bush saw Snow on TV and
decided at first glance to make him the new Press Sec.

they nailed both of em GOOD

blowed up REAL good

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:01 AM
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17. Replay and West Coast kick, starting now!
:evilgrin:
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