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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:57 AM
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Paper receipts on voting machines - Cuyahoga county???
Cleveland TV Station indicates that electronic voting machines are to have receipts:

http://mfile.akamai.com/12938/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0501/9141361.200k.asx

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/9141361/index.html
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:13 AM
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1. The receipts are not meaningful unless
Edited on Tue May-02-06 05:14 AM by IndyOp
there is a clean, 100% ballot recount and there are Ohio BOE members under indictment for having cheated in the 2004 recount - so I don't hold out much hope.

Also: New Ohio state law has done a lot to make other recounts nearly impossible.

HB3's most publicized provision will require positive identification before casting a vote. But it also opens voter registration activists to partisan prosecution, exempts electronic voting machines from public scrutiny, quintuples the cost of citizen-requested statewide recounts and makes it illegal to challenge a presidential vote count or, indeed, any federal election result in Ohio. When added to the recently passed HB1, which allows campaign financing to be dominated by the wealthy and by corporations, and along with a Rovian wish list of GOP attacks on the ballot box, democracy in Ohio could be all but over.

-snip-

HB3 will make it virtually impossible for any challenge to be mounted involving any votes cast or counted on electronic machines or tabulators - meaning virtually every vote cast in Ohio.

Indeed, HB3 will raise the cost of mounting a recount from $10 per precinct to $50 per precinct. In 2004, Secretary of State Blackwell forced citizen groups to raise private funds for a recount, which he proceeded to sabotage. The process, which became a futile electronic charade, cost donors committed to democracy more than $100,000. Three partial, meaningless faux recounts resulted. To date more than 100,000 votes cast in Ohio remain uncounted, including some 93,000 easily-read machine-rejected ballots.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/120605D.shtml


Also: The theft of the 2004 presidential election was accomplished by many means including voter disenfranchisement (no receipt if they don't let you vote) and 'ballot swapping' between precincts so that Dem votes were counted for Rethugs... Free Press uncovers evidence of ballot tampering in Warren County, Ohio

Finally - a couple of 'tidbits' - there is a brown door that hides the receipt being printed on the Diebold machines so the voters won't see their 'printed receipt'. Also there seems to be a bar code on ES&S vote machine receipts - unless voters can interpret bar codes that does not make for much of a voter-verified receipt. (The receipt may show the correct names, but have incorrect bar codings. If any 'recount' is accomplished by scanning bar codes....?)

Ohio rolls out new Diebold Voting Machines in time to unseat Kucinich!



Kucinich: I need your help to continue my work for peace and justice
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:22 AM
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2. Holy FUCK.
We really are living in Hell. Thanks for posting this, IndyOp.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:46 AM
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3. Tackling Election Fraud should be the Dems top issue.
That means making people aware of the problem for starters.

Instead, the slow-motion train wreck continues.

The Approaching 2006 E-Voting 'Train Wreck'-Investigations and Problems Continue to Spread
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_john_gid_060501_the_approaching_2006.htm

The corporatization of the vote continues unabated, enabled by HAVA.

Cramdown, Stripdown, Lockdown Democracy In The USA
Secret Vote Counting Crammed Down the Throat of Democracy
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00233.htm

"...With the help of nearly $4 billion in federal grants, HAVA eliminates the evidence of voter intent by eliminating the paper. Instead of paper ballots we have votes registered and counted on "touch screens" - computer based direct recording electronic (DRE) voting machines. Invisible electronic ballots are the result of these DRE touch screens. Electronic vote counting software does the vital vote tabulation in secret. For citizens and public officials, the vote counting processes are strictly off limits. There is literally nothing to see. As a result, the public records of vote counting are gone. To preserve this secrecy, DRE purchase contracts often pledge the government to cooperate with the vendors to fight the very citizens the government is pledged to serve.

What is this secrecy in vote counting, really? To have the votes counted in secret by your political enemy is the picture of tyranny. To have the votes counted in secret by your political friend is the picture of corruption. To even desire such an unaccountable power is itself corrupt. So how is HAVA cramming this down the throat of American democracy?

HAVA, it turns out, provides a $3.8 billion carrot of federal money to assist election jurisdictions with purchases that comply with HAVA’s “standards”. This federal carrot is combined with a big lawsuit stick for noncompliance. The date for required compliance with HAVA is the first federal election in 2006 (the primary), and violations of HAVA are routinely guaranteed by the U.S. Department of Justice to be cause for a lawsuit. New York was the first major example made of a big state, when DOJ filed suit to force compliance with HAVA’s “standards” in March 2006.

HAVA standards require voting accessibility for people with all “disabilities”. They also require at least one “accessible” voting device per polling location. Adding considerably to the stress of some local jurisdictions is the fact that there is no single voting system that allows accessibility for all disabilities, whether of sight, motor abilities up to quadriplegia, or other disabilities as defined by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)..."
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