Did you ever see the film "The Warriors"? I have a thesis...

benburch

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Wed May-03-06 09:11 PM
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Did you ever see the film "The Warriors"? I have a thesis...

This has been rattling about in my head since I saw this film many years ago, and maybe it is just because I had too much classical education at The University of Chicago, but does anybody but me think that the basis for the story was Homer's Odyssey?

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CrazyOrangeCat

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Wed May-03-06 09:13 PM
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1. Haven't seen that one . . .

. . . but "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was a very cool adaptation of the Odyssey.

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DS1

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Wed May-03-06 09:13 PM
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2. Yep

It had the Sirens, at least

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Goblinmonger

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Wed May-03-06 09:24 PM
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16. And the Cyclops

and the blind man.

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DS1

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Wed May-03-06 09:32 PM
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19. Don't remember it that well

It usually comes on during the weekend, at 2 am, so if I'm up that late I've been :beer: more than a little :-)

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libhill

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Wed May-03-06 09:14 PM
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3. Never saw that film -

Edited on Wed May-03-06 09:17 PM by libhill

I know Kirk Douglas made one, "Ulysses"- and there was a whole swath of sword and sandal flicks in the early '60s - you might look in up in the internet movie data base. It has statistics on zillions of films. Should be able to awnser your question.

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Catherine Vincent

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Wed May-03-06 09:14 PM
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4. I remember that movie. It was really enjoyable.

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okieinpain

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Wed May-03-06 09:16 PM
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7. a classic

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gatorboy

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Wed May-03-06 09:15 PM
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5. I can dig it! n/t

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tridim

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Wed May-03-06 09:16 PM
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6. I only know it from the many MST3K references..

"Warriors.. Come out and pla-ayy!"

Never seen it though.

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Nomad559

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Wed May-03-06 09:25 PM
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17. "Warriors.. Come out and pla-ayy!"

http://www.warriorsmovie.co.uk/soundclips/clips/clip7.mp3

http://warriorsmovie.co.uk

:)

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walldude

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Wed May-03-06 09:17 PM
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8. If you get the new "Directors Cut" version on DVD Director

Walter Hill actually talks about the Odyssey as being one of the "inspirations" for the movie. Did you know they are remaking it? Talk about a pointless remake.

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benburch

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Wed May-03-06 09:18 PM
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9. It was perfect.

What would a remake add to it?

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acmejack

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Wed May-03-06 09:21 PM
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12. Current stars.

Get those modern heart throbs into for the marketing power

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walldude

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Wed May-03-06 09:24 PM
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15. Exactly, to remake it basically the same would be dated

and to "update" it would kill the story all together. Pointless. Almost as pointless as the Omen remake.

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DS1

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Wed May-03-06 09:34 PM
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20. They made a video game out of it last year some time

Hadn't heard about a remake. They'll probably just throw in some "gangsta, but not gangsta enough to decline selling out to a movie studio" rap, extra violence, and Michael Bay zoom-pans

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chelsea0011

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Wed May-03-06 09:19 PM
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10. Just saw it recently. Doesn't hold up very well all these years later

but I can see a bit of the Odyssey in it.

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PATRICK

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Wed May-03-06 09:21 PM
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11. Good instinct, wrong book

Edited on Wed May-03-06 09:25 PM by PATRICK

The film was directly modeled on Xenophon's "Anabasis" or "The March Upcountry" which I am sure is online somewhere. Xenophon tells of a Greek contingent after the defeat of their side in a Persian civil war having to hike it out of enemy territory on a long odyssey home. Even the film critics included this when the film first came out.

The film was more noted for bringing to crashing end to the latest PR campaign which was a big rehabilitation of the Big Apple's national image.

On edit: the first "dead" give away was the death of "Darius" the same name as the Greek employer in the "Anabasis" which precipitates the long retreat.

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KyuzoGator

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Wed May-03-06 09:22 PM
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14. Great minds think alike, and at the exact same time...

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benburch

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Wed May-03-06 09:32 PM
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18. Excellent.

Thanks!

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KyuzoGator

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Wed May-03-06 09:21 PM
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13. It's actually based on Xenophon's Anabasis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis_%28Xenophon%29

Central Park = Cunaxa
Cleon = Clearchus
Coney Island = Hellas
Cyrus = Cyrus the Younger
Warlords = Satraps
The Gramercy Riffs = The Persian Immortals
Atlantic Ocean = The Black Sea
Luther = Tissaphernes
Manhattan = Babylonia
Masai = Artaxerxes II
Mercy = Queen of Cilicia
New York City = Persian Empire
The Orphans = Armenians
Swan = Xenophon
The Warriors = The Ten Thousand

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PATRICK

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Thu May-04-06 06:23 AM
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21. The greater mind remembers

it was Cyrus not Darius. Good thing I didn't try for that list from memory.

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