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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:47 PM
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Prayer in schools, again and again, and again..warning: Falwell content
FALWELL CONFIDENTIAL

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From: Jerry Falwell

Date: May 4, 2006



‘Friend or Foe’ Graduation Prayer Campaign Launched



The “Friend or Foe” Graduation Prayer Campaign was launched today, May 4, by Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, and me. The concept behind the campaign is similar to the successful “Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign” that we initiated last year. It is appropriate that we announce this campaign on the National Day of Prayer.



The new campaign is designed to educate, and if necessary, litigate to ensure that prayer and religious viewpoints are not censored from graduation ceremonies across this nation.



Liberty Counsel, which has written a legal memo outlining current law in such cases, will defend any school which follows the law. On the other hand, when school officials censor prayer or religious speech, Liberty Counsel will file suit.



Here are the facts regarding free speech in graduation services.



If a speaker is chosen using religious-neutral criteria, and if school officials do not edit the speaker’s message of religious viewpoints, that school is on safe legal ground.


Therefore, if a valedictorian, salutatorian, class officer or class representative delivers a message, the speaker is free to include religious themes and can voluntarily pray. The same principle holds true when an adult from outside the school speaks at graduation. Private, voluntary speech on public property is constitutionally protected.


Liberty Counsel has been defending graduation prayer since Mr. Staver founded the group in 1989. In Adler v. Duval County School Board, Liberty Counsel won the right of students to pray or give religious messages during graduation. The case went before a federal court of appeals five times (twice before a panel of 12 judges), and to the U.S. Supreme Court twice. The precedent-setting case against the ACLU established the legal principle that public schools are safe when they adopt an equal access policy for graduation where students or other speakers may present either secular or religious messages, including prayer.


Public schools may also hold graduation at religious sites such as churches if the reason for doing so is religious-neutral. One such reason is that the religious venue provides a more convenient or accommodating facility than the public school. Conversely, private persons or groups may rent public school facilities to conduct privately-sponsored graduation or baccalaureate ceremonies. In privately-sponsored ceremonies, the speakers may be chosen for the express purpose of delivering prayer or religious speeches.

Commenting on the campaign, Mr. Staver said: “Speakers do not lose their rights to free speech when they approach the graduation podium. If schools tell graduates they cannot pray now, they will pay later. The National Day of Prayer recognizes that our country was founded on prayer. Public schools should respect our national heritage and obey our Constitution.”

I encourage graduates and speakers all across this nation to boldly pray and to give thanks to God during their schools’ ceremonies. If a problem arises, simply visit the Liberty Counsel website (www.lc.org) to seek legal assistance.


Liberty Counsel literally has hundreds of lawyers ready to spring into action when school officials seek to quell the religious liberties of high school students. I’m terribly pleased to be on board for this effort to help young people retain their rights to thank God in public school graduation venues.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:54 PM
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1. Mr. Staver supported a law that would have banned firms
such as the ACLU from recovering lawyers' fees in successful "Establishment Clause" cases; he, however, has NO problem accepting attorneys' fees being awarded in "Free Exercise" cases. Oh, the hypocrisy! Those two are just bullies!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:08 PM
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2. jesus said pray in your closet with the door shut did he not? nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:09 PM
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3. Exactly, which is what makes me suspicious of those who are
loud mouthed about it.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:20 PM
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4. Anybody who wants to say a prayer should do so. But, stop
bugging everyone else about it. Why does the praying have to be institutionalized?
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:02 AM
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5. I wonder what would happen if
the student began his prayer with, "Oh Great Allah" or "Oh Mighty Buddha."
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:07 AM
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6. I heard a wise preacher once ask
why anyone would want to demean the sacred act of praying by institutionalizing it.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:22 AM
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7. As long as there are tests
there will be prayer in schools
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:41 AM
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8. I love the way they call it a "Friend or Foe Graduation Prayer
Campaign." In other words, they are deliberately making this a wedge issue, and not even bothering to hide the fact. There is something pretty sick about making prayer not only public, but deliberately confrontational.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:55 AM
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9. Frankly, if I was in a graduation ceremony and a student speaker
decided he/she was going to 'lead" us in prayer, I'd be very tempted to stand up and walk out. This is nothing more than a campaign to attempt to push people into these ceremonies to demand public prayer - and what Mr. Staver does NOT mention is that free speech is best met with OTHER free expression. . .meaning no one shall be required to listen to it, nor respect it. I'd love it for some student in the audience to just roll out his Mecca rug right when the pseudo-christian starts to speak, or for a whole row of students to start chanting and drowning out the speaker. . .after all, if a school brings someone in to force prayer or demand everyone stop to honor their forced prayer, they'll have to get very used to seeing many other people, including the Wiccans they despise, do the same thing.

Staver needs to get one thing perfectly through his little Moonie-funded, Falwell-channeled legal organization - someone is going to get smart enough down the road and declare that THEIR "christian" beliefs dictate that it is insulting to engage in public prayer that is designed to force others to pay homage to another church. . .and being forced to adhere to public prayer (which, of course, the "christians" claim is a right only reserved for THEM). . .

I wish someone would have the balls to ask Falwell if the Moonies were around when American was founded - and what influence they had in the framing of our laws. And as for this country being founded on "prayer". . .maybe Falwell would care to explain how his institutionalized denominational beliefs are based on those prayers. If we dig deeply enough, I'll bet we'll find that Falwell's denominational foundation didn't exist when this country was founded - and thus neither did his method of forced public prayer.

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