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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:36 PM
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What's the most outrageous thing you've heard Clinton get blamed for?
Edited on Fri May-05-06 12:39 PM by Rocknrule
For me it's the Iraq war. Dunno if it fits into the blamed category but here in Denver, there's a guy who appears around town with a sign that says "Clinton is a rapist."
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:38 PM
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1. A boy who was
killed on rail road tracks.

Clinton put him there over a cocaine deal gone bad.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:45 PM
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14. Oops, wrong place
Edited on Fri May-05-06 12:45 PM by Kutjara
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:38 PM
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2. They STILL can't get over Clinton, can they???
For me, it's the Iraq war too...
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:38 PM
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3. Foster's suicide . . .
Edited on Fri May-05-06 12:39 PM by MrModerate
And assorted other corpses he was supposedly responsible for.

Remember the "Clinton Body Count"?

By the way, it never got anywhere NEAR 2,400.
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station agent Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:41 PM
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8. Good one.
Vince Foster was way down the list of people Bubba would want dead. Bush did kill Wellstone though.
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station agent Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:42 PM
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10. 9-11
Even though he stopped the millenium attacks.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 03:22 PM
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28. Ya know, you may just be pulling our collective chains . . .
But it wouldn't surprize me a bit to find out that Schimpanski did the deed on Wellstone. Clearly nothing's beneath him.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:39 PM
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4. How about Vince Foster's suicide? n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:40 PM
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5. Had Ron Brown's plane brought down
because he didn't like him
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:40 PM
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6. One of the deaths on the "Clinton Death List" ...
...was a guy who'd skiied into a tree, a la Sonny Bono.

Clinton planted the tree.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:41 PM
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7. Honestly, high gas prices. And not now, either
back in 1998, when gas prices went all the way up to the "outrageous" price of - gasp - over $1 a gallon, my right wing family members stood around bitching about him and gas prices for fifteen minutes at one family gathering!
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:41 PM
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9. Teenagers having oral sex.
Seemingly, this is happening because they look up to Clinton as an example.

:rofl:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:43 PM
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13. As soon as I saw the thread title ...
... that was my first thought, too!!!!!

We all know that no one ever engaged in this practice before Bill invented it, right?

:rofl:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:30 PM
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24. Bearing in mind
he wasn't around in 1961 don't see you can blame him too much for that.

Encouraging cigar smoking maybe. :rofl:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:42 PM
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11. The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children due to sanctions
Edited on Fri May-05-06 12:42 PM by meganmonkey
unfortunately it's pretty much true :shrug:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:33 PM
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26. The sanctions imposed by the UN in 1991?
Those sanctions?

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:07 PM
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27. That's when they started, yes
Edited on Fri May-05-06 02:08 PM by meganmonkey
But as the 1990's progressed, human rights activists and many members of the UN wanted to ease the sanctions when the death toll became evident. Unfortunately, the Clinton administration used the threat of its veto power to keep the sanctions in effect. I was active and involved in human rights issues then, I remember this stuff pretty vividly.

As Madeleine Albright said, as quoted in this excellent article:

When asked on US television if she thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,232986,00.html


Even Rep John Conyers was part of a bipartisan effort to convince Clinton to agree to lift the sanctions (I dunno about the source, but the best I could find on a quick search - facts are facts, I guess):

Authored by Representatives Tom Campbell(R) and John Conyers (D) the letter
calls for the president to "de-link economic sanctions from the military
sanctions currently in place against Iraq." They go on to present some
established sources on the deadly impact of sanctions on the Iraqi people,
along with platitudes about Iraq's need to 'comply with UN resolutions and
international norms'. They conclude by asking President Clinton "…to do what
is right: lift the sanctions. At the same time, we support the continued
embargo on military equipment and materials."

http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/1999/msg00785.html

Another random excerpt, again, from quickly googled sources:

The Clinton administration, which is the principal backer of sanctions, has vowed to use its veto in the United Nations Security Council to prevent them from being lifted. It has not, however, ruled out supporting expansion of a U.N. program under which Iraq is allowed to sell limited amounts of oil and use part of the income to buy food and medicine.---snip---
U.N. humanitarian workers here are among the most outspoken critics. Their last chief, Denis Halliday, resigned his post in protest three months ago and said sanctions "are starving to death 6,000 Iraqi infants every month, ignoring the human rights of ordinary Iraqis and turning a whole generation against the West."

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/smrtbmb.htm




Some relevent articles:
http://www.accuracy.org/article.php?articleId=42

http://www.commondreams.org/views/022100-102.htm

Here's a google search of all mentions of this problem at the United Nation's own website:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=Iraq+Sanctions+Children&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.un.org&as_rights=&safe=images
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:42 PM
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12. In 1969
Fayetteville, Arkansas. The Arkansas-Texas Football game. Richard Nixon in attendance. Local conservative lore had Bill Clinton up in a tree protesting the Vietnam War and Richard Nixon's visit. Many in town still believe the story. On 6 December 1969, the day of the football game, Bill Clinton was in London. Surely not the most outrageous thing but the first one that popped into my head. In other words, at least 37 years of dogging the man with lies, distortions and untruths.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:46 PM
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15. I heard he killed Christ.
And was the mastermind behind 'New Coke.'

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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:50 PM
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17. No, his great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather killed Christ
:sarcasm:
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:47 PM
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16. fathered a Black child (guess that makes it even worse)
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:51 PM
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18. chronic halitosis.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:52 PM
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19. 9/11.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:52 PM
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20. Oh, also the current record deficits - never mind the fact that Bush is
now prez and republicans control congress, and that under Clinton presidency there was surplus & consensus w/ congress to balance the budget....

Sorry wish I could provide you with some logic that led this person to this conclusion-- but there is none.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:57 PM
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21. The Illegal Immigrant Amnesty of 1986--Reagan's Bright Idea
for growing the GOP.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:57 PM
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22. Same here.
On one board I visit some poster keeps claiming Bush just followed "Clinton's policy of regime change". Clinton didn't suggest invasion, he proposed supporting the opposition and working the diplomatic angle. That's like claiming you cut off someones arm to cure an infection that the doc suggested penicillin for. Bush never did a thing he didn't consider to be his own idea anyway, and if he did follow anyones orders it wouldn't have been Clinton. Just a talking point for those who aren't paying attention.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:03 PM
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23. Bad economy.



Clinton left a huge budgetary surplus. Shit-for-Brains immediately turned it around to a record deficit. The absurd wingnuts want to blame that on Clinton.





(And it has gotten a lot worse since 2004)


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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:31 PM
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25. that he ruined kids moral values, a blow job isn't sex.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 03:28 PM
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29. Making the Supersoaker Oozinator?
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