Who replaces Goss? Jim Baker? Jeb? Poppy? Pat Roberts? Toby Keith?

I'm nervous about the replacement appointment, given this administration's record of appointments.

So he's out. :)

evangelicals back around...

lol

Rush would be too obvious.

Jim Baker and the right-wing looney preacher Jim Bakker.

Maybe Tammy Faye herself would take the job. she couldn't be much less qualified than Harriet Miers.

light on the eye shadow and lashes.

touch she picked up back in her days as a two-bit lounge singer in a backstreet dive in El Paso.

I think that was what she was doing before Bush appointed her to be his personal attorney.

:)

holy crap. :rofl: :wow: :crazy:

atrocity, no vulgarity, no smear, no phone jam scam, no hooker scandal -- nothing -- nothing they do shocks me anymore, but it still is horrifying.

And unpardonable.

Goss should never have been appointed head of the CIA in the first place. He's a low-rent, dull-witted farm animal in there to hack away at the progressives so that resistance to Uncle Dick's power trip is reduced.

Cuba thing together in the CIA?

or maybe Limbaugh or some other whackjob.

He already has experience going after the "bad guys" - he sent FOX Security after several people! :P

ANYTHING!!:toast:

much more poisonous.

A disgusting human being from the dark Contra years of the Reagan administration.

At this point, I'd take a competent conservative who believes in realpolitik over these crazy, crazy, incompetent, crazy nutjobs that we have running the asylum. Seriously. Give me Nixon and Kissinger again. Give me someone with whom I have substantial policy disagreements but who at least agrees that facts are immutable and that you can't simply bullshit your way through them.

I am wanting to rip off my fingers for typing this, but: give me Ollie North.

whose interests include "fencing" and "drunken brawls," but I'm going to have to admit I thought of Kissinger also.

I would like to know who is driving this change -- if it's Negroponte, or Jim Baker, or both of them, or neither of them.

That would give me a hint about who might be chosen.

I think your suggestion about Jay Rockefeller is very persuasive. That would do Bush a lot of good, and the country, too.

I thought of Richard Lugar of Indiana, not that I'm hogwild about Lugar, but just that he's a sentient being and wouldn't put the nation in harm's way.

I had the feeling that Porter Goss would sell the whole continent for beads at the drop of a hat. or at the drop of a hooker's bra, as it were.

by the malevolent poppy. someone who knows how to lay down the chains of a tighter reign in a police state.

he himself will be the new director, or will personally name the new one?

i do know--after listening to norah whorah and the greenspan gal that there was a turf war between john negroponte and porter goss.

negroponte took this turf war to the white house--triangling the bushit boy into it (and poppy behind the scene) and they took sides with negroponte and kicked porter goss out.

negroponte is considered to be a nefarious character implicated in human right abuses carried out by CIA trained operatives in Honduras.

I consider him to be an amoral character JUST LIKE THE BUSHES beginning with POPPY THE EVIL SEED himself, and the entire BUSH CABINET of POPPY RETREADS appointed by POPPY himself to serve his evil seed, junior the bushit boy.

porter goss may have had some sort of moral character formation which may have had him not wanting to get involved in human right abuses, the establishment of a police state, or making light (or covering up those abuses). Negroponte seems to serve POPPY and his SON well. Porter Goss was fired.

Poppy and his son want someone of their ilk, and that of NEGROPONTE's on board so that they can tighten their grip on this slow police state that they have been creating since their bloodless coup d'etat in 2000.

jim baker was part of the coup d'etat then, he is involved in some happenings of the evil seed's son at this time (i am not sure what) ... but for him to be appointed to the CIA directorship... i am not sure that is his ilk.

although ... nothing surprises me anymore as far as the bushit family is concerned.

There's been some speculation -- that's all it is as far as I know -- that Goss was put in that job because the Bush White House already had compromising photos of him. "Go in there, Porter, and dismantle the Agency, or we destroy your career."

Your scenario with the spat between Goss and Negroponte is high-voltage stuff.

Definitely in the 'WOW' category.

because in the bush white house everything is a WOW!

with a hooker he'd never admit to it again, and the last time that I saw him he's all get tough on anyone who doesn't totally agree with the Fake pResident.

edit: typo

intelligentsia would freak out completely and the Far Right would be marching in the streets with torches.

At least he is a secret agent. That makes him more qualified than most Bush appointees.



Form the Hurricane Online (University of Miami)

remember we're dealing with a gang of cutthroat monsters and Bush naming Brit Hume to head the CIA sounds dangerously possible.

What a whorehouse of a network FOX is, with Brit Hume among the worst of the worst.

entertaining at best.

difficulty for Bush here.

I can't help but wonder if Jim Baker is the instigator of this plan to replace Goss.

And if he has himself in mind as the replacement.

claim they've all repented and are once again living at the foot of the cross! Plus Pat can cast the devils out of the people like the guy in North Korea! Murikka will be much safer with a cat with some real morals and values and shit taking care of bidness! Besides Pat knows all those good ways to make people talk that he read about in his Bible.

try, yes.

It would cost the GOP a senate seat, though, wouldn't it? Or not? I don't know Kansas law. But a Democratic governor is popular there, Kathleen Sebelius, and I wonder if it would mean she appoints his replacement to the Senate. That might narrow the GOP's majority for November, or make it tougher to hold.

Still, I agree. Pat Roberts has been the go-to guy for suppressing information and he can sure play the homespun yahoo in front of the Church social picnic, too.

Good call.

Hell, if you're gonna load up on members of "the family," you might as well do it right.

Then Bush* can appoint someone else to get a head start as VP.

I'm thinking there are a lot of career people at the Agency who would like to clean Dick Cheney's clock for first ignoring intell provided and then blaming the CIA for "bad intelligence."

I have a feeling Goss may be involved with hookers, but that isn't the reason I want him out. I want him out because he's a potato-head cretin who got the job in the first place to dismantle the Agency. It's a Bush ploy for control.

This is a huge day in the history of this administration.

Something like that....

being to ever live, from WWII days in the Third Reich.

Unfortunately, that sort of profile might be the person Bush winds up appointment to replace Goss.

He'd be a heckuva director.

Or John Rockefeller.

Something big and unexpected like that.

He'd have to figure out how to operate the new coffee machines.

Other than that, he'd be right at home.

Yuck!

bad as most of the other little goblins Bush might appoint.

At least Warner has good taste in women.

Negroponte will make the recommendation.

Maybe Goss slipped in without Negroponte's approval in the first place. It would be interesting to know.

The new person needs to be somebody somehow not connected to the slam-dunk alliances between Cheney/Bush and George Tenet, IMO.

Goss was uniquely suited to the hatchet job Bush ordered for the CIA. His circle of loyalists is small enough that whomever he selects, I doubt they will as dangerous as Porter Goss.

Photo of Porter Goss with the rest of Operation 40, taken in '63

can't buy the usual, want to spend more time in captiva... or the family silliness.

no evidence that I know of.

I want this guy out not because he diddles prostitutes but because he does not have the nation's interests in heart. He's a flunky, a hack, a stool pigeon, a bend-over errand boy for a pack of liars and thieves. His sole purpose, seems to me, was to undermine the Agency's effectiveness, including its tendency to report unbiased data to the White House. This White House wants only the spin it wants and evidently was willing to debase the CIA to advance its war agenda, and then had the audacity to blame the Agency for "bad intell."

Goss was in there to lossen the bolts, and somebody -- I'd love to know who it was -- has said 'enough,' and this afternoon, Goss is gone.

The hookers might be a variable, but I want him fired for being an asshole first.

Go for it!

He's done "a heckuva job" as chairman of the Senate Committee on Intelligence.

Then watch his Kansas seat turn blue in November.

Perhaps even an anti-Bush (a quietly anti-Bush) voter. Or so I remembered reading here a couple of years ago, despite the rather tasteless "Shockin Y'all" title.

he's fooled a lot of folks with those recordings.