Newsweek "Full Speed Ahead" and Live Poll about wiretaps in case

you haven't seen it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10663996/site/newsweek/

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants?   * 3305 responses



Yes
16%


No
82%


I don't know (huh?)
2%

And why does not this poll have a choice of "Not only NO, but FUCK NO??"

That's who... minority of Nazi dweebs. And the longer they support this criminal GOP the more they isolate themselves as targets.

It's at 15%, now.
I found this on google. ;)

"You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
Abraham Lincoln

In considering Lincoln's presidency, who in the history of the United States did more than Abraham Lincoln in implementing the values of Democracy as set forth in Jefferson's Declaration? In his famous insight on fools, i.e., those people who fool with the truth and those people who abide the fooling, Abe was providing a warning to dishonest politicians, bureaucrats and businessmen guilty of coercion, incompetence and lies.

Here Lincoln is saying that the fools who do the fooling will be found out, that they will be caught with their pants down. They will, like the fools they are, argue that their pants are half up and not half down, and it will make no difference to the people, because they know the fool's pants are down.

Given the pathetic condition of democracy under George W. Bush's religious capitalism, Lincoln's characterization of people and their propensity to being fools and to being fooled is as useful today as during Lincoln's time. It serves the people to ask who these fools are and why they are still with us in the 3rd millennium."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dr__gerr_051220__22you_can_t_fool_all_.htm

not half down...

Sounds about right.

The way I figure it, Bush's poll numbers history is living proof of Lincoln's hypothesis.

:rofl:

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 3334 responses


Yes
16%

No
82%

I don't know
2%

bush* was on AF1 'staying out of harm's way'? Is than a 'renactment' of 'rewriting history'?

Clarke's book has a play by play of that day, but I don't have a copy.

....But I read from the cover headline "How much power should they have...??" and then the photo showing Smirky demonstrating to Unka Dick.

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 3648 responses
Yes
15%
No
83%
I don't know
2%

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 3648 responses

Yes 15%
No 83%
I don't know 2%

they never cite their own friggin polls on any of their shows-especially if they are anti-Bush results

Thank you. It is 15-83-2 now.

Also gave the article a 5 rating. It's a damn good read.

They are pushing this a step further. Before they were asking us if we think it was illegal, now we are supposed to give him the go ahead to keep doing it? What am I? The frigging Constitution?

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 5078 responses


Yes
14%

No
84%

I don't know
2%




It's kind of a loaded question. The White House can order wire taps without a warrant initially. The real problem is that they never get a warrant. They have 72 hours after the initial tap to get a warrant. One has to ask what's up with the info or the tapped person that they're afraid to ask for warrants even after listening for 72 hours.

"OK, as long as you stop now" It's the chutzpa poll.

nt

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 5231 responses

Yes
14%

No
84%

I don't know
2%

When you start getting polls consistently placing numbers in the mid-80's against shrub's spying, you should realize you are onto something.

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Bush apparently has judged that he, as president, and his close advisers can decide which laws they wish to obey and when, while simultaneously condemning those outside their circle of power for violating the same laws.

As the New York Times reported on Dec. 16 and Bush confirmed on Dec. 17, he also is claiming – as his constitutional right – the power to wiretap Americans without court review or the presentation of evidence to any impartial body.

When Bush is challenged on these authorities, he asserts that he is following the law, although it is never clear which law or whether anyone other than his appointed lawyers have advised him on the scope of his power.

"Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants."

Frames the wholesale monitoring of domestic communications as 'selected wiretaps'. That is bullshit. That is catapulting the propaganda.

The administration already had the authority to perform selected wiretaps without warrants - it merely had to go through FISA within 72 hours. They did not break the law to get something they already had, they broke the law to get something that they didn't have. What they didn't have was the authority to turn the NSA Echelon system on for domestic communications. That system monitors EVERYTHING on every switch it is attached to. Reject the wiretap meme: it is deliberate bullshit.

Americans have been wiretapped without warrants. W and his henchmen in the corporate media are doing there damnedest to portray this as a limited program. Of course this is just another lie. When the truth finally comes out, it will be seen to be a massive operation that any despot would be proud of.

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First time that I replyed to this thread I was caught in no-man's land :crazy:

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 187296 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 8800 responses

Yes 13%

No 85%

I don't know 1%

Should the White House continue ordering selected wiretaps without warrants? * 10242 responses
Yes
13%
No
86%
I don't know
1%