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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 03:58 PM
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*: "As a boy I never even saw a soccer ball"



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“As a boy I never even saw a soccer ball,” Bush said in an interview with the Bild am Sonntag newspaper. “Where I’m from soccer wasn’t played. The sport just didn’t exist. So there is a generation of Americans who really aren’t soccer fans.”


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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 03:59 PM
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1. brilliant deduction chimpy
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:00 PM
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2. He was too busy blowing up frogs with firecrackers
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:07 PM
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6. And shooting his brothers with a bb gun
n/t
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:01 PM
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3. So, what's his excuse for hating books? n/t
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:09 PM
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8. "Those books hate freedom..."
:rofl:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:04 PM
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4. Drop the corn pone act, George.
Edited on Mon May-08-06 04:05 PM by tanyev
They never heard of soccer at Andover and Yale? We know for sure you played rugby. There's a photo of you hitting someone illegally. (Surprise.)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/rugby.asp
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:13 PM
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9. He went to Andover: therefore he saw a soccer ball.
We used to laugh at those rich dickwads as we actually had girls at our school, but we sure as hell couldn't beat them at soccer as they were a 10x larger school than we were (and we generally didn't care either.) This was the same era as Il Dunce was doing new england prep school tour. What an f'ing liar. Is there anything he won't lie about?

Soccer was the number one sport at prep schools.


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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:19 PM
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12. Exactly -- pathological liar -- this proves it n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:40 PM
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15. I know work teams around Cambridge in the early 70s
were made up of South Americans, Mexicans, a few Europeans and some prep school types.

See, the stupid little prick lies even when the truth would serve him just as well.
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Walt Disney Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:06 PM
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5. I'm not a soccer fan either. However, it's not because I never saw
a soccer ball when I was a boy.

It's just that I can't get enthused about a game where an insurmountable lead is 2-0.
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Bad Penny Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:37 PM
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30. 2-0 is hardly insurmountable.
Also, the myth Americans believe about soccer is that it's low scoring because nothing happens. A soccer match plays out in 90 minutes. The clock never stops. If you played an entire NFL game out in 90 minutes with the clock never stopping it'd be lower scoring than soccer by miles. In fact, average touchdowns per game in the NFL are about equal with average goals scored per game in Soccer. It takes 3 + hours to complete an NFL game. And the NFL pads its scoreboard with field goals. Perhaps soccer would be more enticing if they awarded seven points for each goal and 3 points everytime someone hit the post or crossbar

Anyway, Bush is a shithead



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Walt Disney Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:23 PM
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39. Well, at least we agree on one thing.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:41 PM
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43. Nevermind n/t
Edited on Tue May-09-06 03:55 PM by manic expression
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:08 PM
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7. So, because *he* doesn't know what soccer is,
that automatically translates into a whole "generation of Americans"? Sheesh. What a dip!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:14 PM
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10. Oh bullshit.
Edited on Mon May-08-06 04:17 PM by China_cat
I'm the same age he is (approximately) and came from a small, rural, mostly farming area and our school had a soccer team. Two of them, actually...boys and girls. (The only team sport we had for girls besides slow pitch softball which was about as exciting to play as watching grass grow)

So don't tell me that a rich, white, privileged enclave didn't know what soccer was.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:59 PM
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21. really? back in the early 1960s?
I graduated from High School in 1971 (seven years after chimpy) and in my fairly upper middle class world, there was no organized soccer league at the time. The first leagues started up a couple of years later. I imagine that soccer was still pretty rare in most of the country in the early 1960s, although it wouldn't surprise me if it there were competitions (at least intramural) at prep schools like Andover (where chimpy attended).

onenote
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:16 PM
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25. I graduated in '72 from a high school near Buffalo, and we had a team.
I'm quite certain, because my brother was on it.

I can't know for sure, but let's say I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Bush was full of shit AGAIN.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:54 PM
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34. I played andover's soccer team in 68/69
the f'ing liar was at Andover 61-64. I can assure you that Andover, prep school to the elites, did not invent their soccer team in '68.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:30 PM
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37. We didn't have a league.
There were only 2 schools with teams and we didn't get much in the way of spectators. It was an experiment by a VERY progressive new coach. But we did have the 2 teams so we knew what soccer was/is. Very exotic.

But then, the same coach talked the admin of the school into buying an old WWII plane and using it for shop class. The guys got to take it apart and put it back together, clean it up and display it next to the football field.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:16 PM
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11. Do they play polo at Andover?
Isn't that where he went to prep school?
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:20 PM
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13. Connecticut has certainly had soccer in it's upper class for ages...
In fact, Connecticut has the oldest junior soccer camp in the country. 30+ years old. It's not as if soccer didn't exist up to that point, it just wasn't big enough for poor people to play it.

http://www.mysummercamps.com/camps/connecticut-soccer-camps.html
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:36 PM
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14. when he was young, it was barely played in Murka
he's near 60, right?

he went to high school in the early to mid 60's.

nobody but east coast boarding school types played soccer then.

wait a second...
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:41 PM
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16. Isn't the USA in the World Cup - Chimpo?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:41 PM
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17. Yet another lie
This should be easy to check.

Find out where he went to elementary and high school. Check the curriculum guides. Trust me, it'll be on there.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:02 PM
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23. it would be hard to tell what they had 40 plus years ago
I suspect Andover had at least intramural soccer back in the 60s, but I don't know how to confirm it (unless someone has a yearbook they can check). The Andover website mentions soccer championships won by the school going back to 1981, but that's well after chimpy attended. Anyone have access to an old Andover yearbook?

onenote
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:56 PM
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35. All the new england prep schools had soccer teams then.
This is complete bullshit on busholini's part. Andover Exeter Deerfield Groton -the whole bunch of them played soccer.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:46 PM
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18. Trying to make him look simple, normal, average...
Its pathetic. They are always trying to rewrite the Bush family history.

One day they will be so successful at this revisionism that people will, with a straight face, describe how Bush "made it on his own" and "came from nothing to be a success".


That is, they will take the Clinton story, and steal it.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:47 PM
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19. When did he leave Ct.? And where did he go from there?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:01 PM
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22. he did go to school in midland i think
when HW was helping kill JFK
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:48 PM
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20. Seriously? I thought for sure he would've been a soccer cheerleader.
:spank:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:47 PM
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33. He WAS. Soccer & baseball cheerleader at Yale.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:03 PM
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24. Does this fella look like a soccer player to you?
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:24 PM
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26. Gym class (Near Buffalo, N.Y.)
in the forties we played soccer.

It was a great game because size and strength were not required. Even little people could play the game and have fun.

180
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:28 PM
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27. Gym class 1962.Brockport NY
we played soccer in class......where was this idiot at this time........or did he skip out because he was afraid to shower in front of the boys?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:29 PM
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28. Never saw a book or a poor person, either.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:35 PM
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29. Bush is full of cow patties
Edited on Mon May-08-06 05:36 PM by blogslut
Unlike Bush, I was born in Texas and have lived all my life in Texas. When I was in elementary/jr high school during 1965-1975, the boys would play soccer during recess every single day. It wasn't a school sponsored sport but they played it. That man just lies and lies.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:44 PM
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31. oh geez, brilliant "diplomacy," Smirky VonScheistkopf!
not only do you sound like the ignorant pathetic loser trailer-trash backwater bozo that you really are, you have the audacity to represent the rest of us as ignorant, out of touchy, disinterested, narcissistic, and clueless too. Of which "generation" do you speak, anyway, Bonehead?

In so many MANY ways he always misses his opportunities in life to be brilliant, to have moments of greatness. No wonder all he can think of is that 7.5-inch, er, oops, ha ha, that 7.5-pound "perch" he caught that time he rented the pond at DisneyWorld and threw a bash for the Rangers and Pioneers, that time with Jeff Gannon . . .
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:47 PM
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32. My proudest childhood moment was when I scored my first goal
with a 90 pound soccer ball
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:08 PM
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36. It was probably 1990-ish before I saw my first soccer ball.
I think * is full of it, but I grew up in a fairly rural area where "real men" played football, "athletes" played baseball or went out for track and field, and an interest in any other sport automatically made you a suspect for being gay (and got you jumped regularly). I was a sophmore or junior in high school before I saw my first soccer game. Some of the Mexican kids finally convinced the school administration to allow them to form a team. They were allowed to play and practice on the football field whenever the football team wasn't using it for games or practice (we're not talking sharing here...the football team scheduled all of their field time for the season, and the soccer team got whatever was left over). They also weren't allowed to put a net on the field, so they had to erect a large PVC goal whenever they wanted to play, and lean it against the goalpost. More than once during games their goalies ended up hitting the goalposts while trying to block a kick.

The thing is, I grew up in a rural, very red area where football was the lifeblood of the community. Bush didn't.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 11:18 AM
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38. bush lived in Midland until he went to Andover
sure, there were summers in kennebunkport

so soccer was probably only played by latinos, as in your story.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:25 PM
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40. yes George we know--You were born a poor black child.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:31 PM
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41. Sometimes, I wonder if Bush completely forgot his childhood
Due to the trauma inflicted by his parents (He wasn't allowed to mourn the death of his sister) or perhaps the drug and alcohol abuse. With this and some other things he has said, I think that this is a possibility.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:32 PM
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42. "Our social caste types preferred polo." nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:58 PM
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44. I played soccer in elementary school during PE in Colorado Springs
back in the very early 1960s. And a game called "Speedball" was being played all over America in every school during that time. It uses a soccer ball and has all the elements of soccer, but also elements of American football and basketball thrown in. It's played on a soccer field with a net and goalie, but within certain limits, the player can touch, and dribble the ball with his hands. I played this game in every school's gym class I attended during my youth, all over the country (as my Dad was in the Air Force and got transferred a lot), in Junior and Senior High.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 04:17 PM
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45. Shit we played it in the 60s in PE. What bs.
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