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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:39 PM
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Cloture vote on C-Span2 DENIED! on S.22 Medical liablity vote
Edited on Mon May-08-06 04:56 PM by FLDem5
anyone know if this is supposed to be close or not? Frist is talking up a storm. Lots of Nos.



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.00022:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:49 PM
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1. I wish I could make out what they are saying down there.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:52 PM
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2. Why does the Senate hate ordinary Americans?
If a person is damaged medically there should be no cap on damages, which by the way are very difficult if not impossible to get anyway.

Now they want to limit the amount collected if more than one institution is involved and LIMIT the attorney fees.

There are no limits on the salaries of oil CEOs. Oh, no, they wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:53 PM
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3. Motion for cloture denied
Edited on Mon May-08-06 04:54 PM by FLDem5
Other related bills up now.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:55 PM
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5. Thanks, Dems for standing up the public interest, not BIG MONEY.
Edited on Mon May-08-06 05:04 PM by flpoljunkie
And thank you, FLDem 5 for posting this.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:55 PM
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6. I am glad you care - this was a big issue
Edited on Mon May-08-06 04:56 PM by FLDem5
to lots of INSURANCE COMPANIES... hee hee hee.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:06 PM
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13. Senate now voting on cloture S.23-limits on liability for OB/GYN.
Confusing. S.22 and S.23.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:15 PM
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15. One doesn't need to look further than Texas
and what Tort Reform did here.
Was a boondoggle for insurance companies....hurt patients AND Doctors.
Sad thing was, they hoodwinked the Doctors into supporting it and enlisted their aid in pushing it through and then threw them overboard.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:54 PM
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4. Why aren't they discussing the troops not having enough to eat
in IRAQ?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:58 PM
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7. OB/GYN cloture vote up now.
and we know how much the Prez likes his Ob/Gyns to practice their love with their patients.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:58 PM
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8. Thanks for the thread
I've been wondering how the S.22 vote was going today.

Nice to see they didn't get the votes.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:59 PM
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9. Provisions of it are actually still up for votes.
but if they didn't get that, I don't think they will get the rest.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:03 PM
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11. OB/GYN - only 46 votes for cloture so far.
from the roll call (I was trying hard to follow) it doens't look like any Dems crossed on this issue. I wish they would post the tallies.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:06 PM
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12. Sitting on the edge on my seat
with fingers crossed.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:00 PM
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10. It's a bill to restrict suing Pharma companies for bad vaccines.
This bill will restrict you from suing the very company that might have harmed or killed you.
This is bill written by FRIST with the help of the PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES.

~snip~ Vaccine industry officials helped shape legislation behind the scenes that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist secretly amended into a bill to shield them from lawsuits, according to e-mails obtained by a public advocacy group.
~snip~

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006605080356
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:12 PM
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14. Mercury in vaccines - very bad!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:41 PM
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16. Any word on S.23?
I just read Reid's press release on medical liability which outline's the GOP's dirty trick:

Even though these measures would dramatically rewrite the tort laws of all 50 states, and even though they would denigrate the legal rights of countless Americans, they have undergone no serious legislative review in this Congress. Don't be fooled by the low bill numbers –- S. 22 and S. 23 were simply placeholders for legislative text that was only formally introduced last Wednesday. In fact, the text of these bills was not even available online until two days ago. The Majority Leader used a procedure we call "Rule 14" to bring these bills straight to the Senate floor to avoid consideration by either the Judiciary Committee or the Health Committee.

There has not been a single committee hearing. There has not been a single witness... Not a single opportunity to amend, or a single opportunity to improve, compromise or negotiate. With this insurance industry legislation, every step of the process has been abandoned.

Why has the Majority proceeded in this manner? Because this is not a serious exercise in legislating, it is a political stunt being performed for the sole purpose of allowing Republicans to go back to their special interest friends and say "look what we have tried to do to help." But even they should not be fooled by these transparent theatrics.

The Majority is short-circuiting the committee process because of the illusion of a medical malpractice "crisis."


http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=65382

Reid's whole release is a must read for anyone who is interested in the issues underlying the medical liability push.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:20 PM
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17. Cloture vote failed on this giveway to BIG INSURANCE, too, 49-45.
Why does Frist waste the Senate's time on this when he surely must know they do not have the votes to pass these?

Could it be because of the campaign contributions to the Republican, the party who does the bidding of BIG MONEY?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:30 PM
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19. The GOP wants to tell insurance companies the GOP is working
on their request. See, they'll say, we tried. Gotta keep the big bucks rolling into GOP coffers.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:24 PM
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18. Is there a companion House bill?
Or is this just Senatorial posturing so they can tell their gullible constituents that they TRIED to cap liability damages, magically making health care suddenly affordable again, but those darn Democrats and their lawyer buddies thwarted them again?

Because I haven't heard a peep about S 22 or S 23, and there's usually a big mobilization effort on the part of both the poor, beleaguered insurance companies and the feisty, on-the-side-of-the-angels trial lawyers.
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