The "I" word. Why do most of our Democratic office holders shy from it?

Because they are drinking from the same fountain that feeds the Republicans.

The re-"election" of GWB has shown that money can buy anything here in the U.S. and the vast majority of our Senators and Congressmen want to be able to pay for their next few years of power.

It sucks, but I really feel that's the way it is.

America has turned lazy and stupid.

We are about to pay the piper as the Corporate infrastructure goes on to greener fields.

NOT IN CONTROL! I'm tired of hearing this; they can't do anything until the Senate and/or House have a majority. PERIOD!

If we don't mess it up ... the public will be begging the dems to do just that after November! They will be begging us to do it!

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power.

Please give the old 'they are all the same" nonsense a rest.

There are many good dems, and they want to investigate. But Pat Roberts (R) and his ilk keep blocking investigations. When Dems take back the house and senate, they will have subpoena power.

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Impeachment blew up in the pukes faces and they're afraid it will happen to them.

To be fair to them...There's so much going on, they've decided (and I think rightfully so) to focus on the corruption of the puke party. As many have noted, scrubbie isn't running. If the pukes in Congress can distance themselves from scrubbie and his incompetent admin then they could hold on to power. If you connect the dots from the WH to the Congress to many state officeholders then you can bring the whole thing down.

Impeachment is an after-effect. As Pelosi rightfully points out...There will be hearings and then we'll go from there. This is how we should be framing the issue of impeachment (IMO).

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want to throw gasoline on Turdblossims fire just yet, better to have control of the house first, and are the alternatives (replacements)any better, it could also conceivably cost us a Dem president in "08, you know better to lose the battle and win the war.

Allow me to offer a quick lesson in Politics 101.

If the Democrats craft their 2006 election theme around "Elect us and we'll impeach the bastard!", three things will happen:

1) Every progressive and liberal will go "Yahoo!" and surge to the polls.

2) Every right-winger will go "No way, Jose!" and surge to the polls.

3) The Great Wah of the centrist middle will remember the mayhem of 1998 and go, "Oh no, not again," and will stay away from the polls.

Here's the thing. Those lib/progs who will surge to the polls under the banner of impeachment are going to vote no matter what; that's what die-hards do. The right-wingers will likewise vote no matter what; ibid re: die-hards.

These two groups together maybe make up 40% of the electorate. Maybe. It's more like 30%-35%.

WE NEED the Great Wah of the centrist middle to vote this time around; midterm turnout is always very low by comparison, and we need all of them we can get. If only the die-hards come out, it'll be another narrow election cycle. If the centrists come out and vote our way, it'll be a landslide.

If we go to war under the impeachment banner, most of the excellent issues we have against the GOP and Bush (the war, the deficit, the spying, the scandals, Katrina, etc.) will wither and die. Many GOPers who might otherwise stay home out of disillusionment will vote their asses off to keep this one thing from happening. We want them to stay home in November.

And pssst, the impeachment round will still be in the chamber if we win. The fact that we don't run on it doesn't mean it won't happen. I know for a stone fact that Conyers office has files and reports and investigations ready to roll on Day One.

(/preachy rant)

I think he should be impeached. I DO NOT think the '06 campaigns should be about impeachment.

We need to campaign on strengths and plans...

The two things that the new RW talking points seem to be intent on convincing the American public that we do not have.

I hope they keep that line of thought.

we did the dirty work of impeaching bush. It won't be on their hands and they won't be branded as disloyal.

it be. But after November 06, all bets are off!
Now could actually be the time to sit back and watch them make matters worse.

Democratic congresspeople are not talking about impeachment because it's something they can't accomplish now. To spend time talking about impeachment would be foolish. The American people want to know what the Democrats plan to do when they are in charge, and how they plan to lead.

Yes, money is a huge problem in politics, but that has nothing to do with Democratic office holders not banging the drums of impeachment now.

to act like we don't want it simply because we cannot have it.

It's a stupid psychology in which certain folks think they shouldn't broach the subject because it would make them look weak because it does not happen.

I would love to hear Pelosi say, "Yes, I think he should be impeached, but it won't happen while both houses are in his back pocket."

The question is... Why don't some people here on DU understand that when one is standing for the most important election of ones career and one knows that the Repugs are going to whine about impeachment, that there might be better ways to frame issues than saying that ChimpCo are going to be impeachment targets?

If Dems start talking impeachment, the Repugs will roast us with it in autumn. That will hurt Dems because no matter what, people have a sense of fairness and won't like candidates who are campaigning on a platform of impeachment.

It's quite simple, actually.

"It's quite simple, actually?" Give me a clue how simple that might be; I'm all ears.

every speaking engagement. :D

In fact, I would earn campaign money by MAKING my own clothing, etc. that says: "If you vote for me, the first thing I'll do is impeach Bush."

Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about because I am not a Washington insider, or a professional politician or a political pundit... or even a blogger for a progressive website. :)



Fuck being nice to the opposition! To Hell with 'playing politics'!

WE MAKE THE RULES!!! :patriot: WE THE PEOPLE!!!

to be heard!

:D