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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:04 AM
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drug company upstaging doctors' orders on medication=mass murder of the
elderly and infirmed. not yet a nazified concentration camp in our america, but our beloved america is getting there. inciting people to cut on their medication and hailing it as a savings is inciting mass murder of the people who depend on those medications for life sustaining purposes.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-rxsplit10may10,0,7064488.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


"Retirees often joke they will get in trouble if the HMO finds out they split their pills to save money, but now one of the nation's largest health insurers is pushing the idea.

United HealthCare, the nation's second largest insurer and among the largest in Florida, is the first major health plan to give discounts of up to $300 a year to members who split pills in half as a way to save on prescription drugs."

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:08 AM
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1. self deleted
Edited on Wed May-10-06 06:23 AM by Hubert Flottz
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:09 AM
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2. They'll start pushing smaller pills for same price claiming "more potent"
eom
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:09 AM
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3. They are saying to split a 20 to get the prescribed dose of 10
and get the savings of receiving twice the meds for the price of one prescription. The VA has done it for years. The article makes it pretty clear, they certainly aren't doing anything to harm the populace (for a change).
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:12 AM
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4. Just to be clear
They aren't advising people to cut back on their dosage at all. The way you phrased your post could be misinterpreted that way.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:16 AM
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5. Splitting Pills Is Not the Same as Halving Dosage
If a person has a script for WOnderzine 500mg per day and gets a fill of 30 1000mg pills, by splitting the pills they get the prescribed dose for 60 days and may save some money by not buying 60 500mg pills. Not the same as halving dosages. My HMO does this for some drugs.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:06 AM
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7. So what's the advantage?

Are 1000mg pills less than twice as expensive as 500mg pills?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:05 AM
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10. Larger Dose Pills are Cheaper
Buying 100 50mg pills is cheaper than 200 25mg for the insurer who - theoretically -passes the savings on to the patient. For example, Cozaar, a hypotensive in the ARB class that's not available as a generic, 100 50mg pills cost $172.00; 50 100mg pills cost $125.00.

Cozaar does come with a special pill cutter (it's an odd-shaped pill) and cutting them is a pain in the ass; others, though, are easier to cut and are even scored for cutting.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:35 AM
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6. Yeah, but some older folks have trouble just...

... opening their pill bottles, let alone splitting pills in half... Sounds confusing for many older folks...

As long as the prescribed dosage is not tampered with, I really don't see much wrong with this, for a change...
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:03 AM
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9. Posted in the Wrong Place!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 08:04 AM by REP
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:10 AM
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8. Didn't Bush say the new drug plan had something to do with finality?
I can't see anything more final than dying from lower then effective dosages of critical drugs...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:10 AM
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11. Pill-splitting doesn't result in "lower than effective dosages"
Edited on Wed May-10-06 08:12 AM by mcscajun
If the patients needs to take 20mgs of a medication, and orders the same quantity of 40mg tablets to split them, then the patient saves a lot of money, and still gets the dosage they need.

So long as their doctor is in the loop and approves this, no issue.
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