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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:04 AM
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Mary Cheney calls John Kerry a "son of a bitch"
Mary Cheney calls John Kerry a "son of a bitch" for using gays for political gain, but not a word about George Bush or dear old dad doing the same
by John in DC - 5/10/2006 11:37:00 AM

(see Mary's quotes below).

Cheney saves her harshest words for Bush's 2004 opponents, calling Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry a "son of a bitch'' and his running mate, John Edwards, a "total slime'' for discussing her sexual orientation during nationally televised debates during the campaign....

In her interview with Diane Sawyer, Cheney said of Bush: "I think he's a very good man. On these issues, he hasn't caught up.''

Cheney is less generous to Kerry and Edwards, who she accuses of "sleazy'' politics for mentioning she was gay during debates with Bush and her father.

"John Kerry didn't 'out me', nor did he offend or attack me by calling me a lesbian. It wasn't a secret that I was gay, and I certainly couldn't be offended by the truth,'' she writes. ``What was offensive was that he was obviously trying to use me and my sexual orientation for his own political gain.''

Sitting in the studio audience when Edwards mentioned her sexual orientation, Cheney said she looked at the vice-presidential candidate and mouthed the words"Go F*** Yourself'' a phrase her father had earlier employed against Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy.


more at:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/05/mary-cheney-calls-john-kerry-son-of.html
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TheLeftyMom Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:06 AM
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1. Such a classy family
How in the world did they wind up "in power?"
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:26 PM
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83. Crooks
and assorted criminals go where real people fear to tread.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:14 PM
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169. By wanting it...
Sometimes that's all it takes for scum to take power. They want it, they find it, they take it. It happens when "the public" isn't really paying attention.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:06 AM
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2. Sounds to me like little Mary needs some hometraining. She doesn't
know her own people hate her GAY GUTS.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:11 AM
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22. You are so on the money....
her people are the ones opposing anything pertaining to gay rights. Their opinions of gay people are downright obscene and she has the nerve to call John Kerry a "son of a bitch". The whole Cheney family is what is bad about this country.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:51 AM
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65. Sounds to me like she idolises her oppressors. Which is kinda funny.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:33 PM
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85. Sounds like "Stockholm syndrome", or "battered person syndrome"
Wikipedia links for Stockholm syndrome and battered person syndrome.

At least, I would hope such was the case. That she would be this myopic deliberately just boggles the imagination.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:37 PM
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131. Sounds as much like 'Arsehole Syndrome' as any other.
I understand it is genetically inherited from carrying parents.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #65
112. To me,
it sounds eerily reminiscent of a Hamas rally - I wonder if the hatred has been bred into her.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:15 PM
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78. Like an...
ex-friend we refer to as the Red Queen who happens to be a gay Repug...who spews such moronic rhetoric like Queen Mary (Cheney)...it's any wonder why other gay Repugs are not well liked in the gay community...a good example: The Red Queen just adores Latino gay men but fully supports deportation of immigrants..huh??? He's a white Italian who will only date Latino men but yet would like to see them deported...He once had a slew of Latino gay friends but now the majority of them and I included do not speak to him...and those that do are only using him because he's good at finding cheap airfare and hotel deals online...absolutely sad! But stupid, ignorant gay Repugs like the Red Queen and Mary Cheney just should remain in the closet and not be seen nor heard.
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:58 PM
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154. Delete due to repeat n/t
Edited on Wed May-10-06 04:00 PM by Lusted4
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:25 PM
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157. Shea also seems to have forgotten
that her people don't support womens rights.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:06 AM
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3. What a crass bitch...
the entire family is a pox on this country.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:11 AM
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23. what a joke
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:14 AM by luckyleftyme2
he can't shoot,he can calculate and the dip can't even get the baby thing right!
a perfect match,screw up the "errand boy and the chimp"
could we make a soap opera or a film with at least 4 sequels!
the errand boy shoots the chimp
the errand boy drills in iran and the chimp cheers him on
the errand boy drills in anwar and the chimp cheers him on
the errand boy loses everything and goes to jail;the chimp will follow
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:17 AM
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29. Bingo.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:07 AM
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4. Look around you, Mary. SOB's everywhere.
as far as the eye can see
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:07 AM
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5. Apple sure doesn't fall far from the tree, does it...
Lotsa class, that Cheney clan.
All third maybe, but lotsa class. :eyes:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM
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20. Turd Class, indeed!!!!
Close enough for government work!
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #20
114. The turd doesn't fall far from the asshole.
:evilgrin:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:07 AM
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6. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree ...
Yes, The Cheneys' are so moral and upstanding. :sarcasm: :puke:
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:07 AM
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7. The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
Anything for the lowest sort of political gain, division and fear mongering. Happy karma, Mary. Give my regards to your dad.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:08 AM
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8. Well, you could say that she is a "son of a bitch"...
as in Mary is the "son" of a "bitch" who would be Lynn Cheney.
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:08 AM
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9. Okay, Mary Cheney is a
...oh, never mind - it's such a horrible word I was going to use... :evilgrin:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:08 AM
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10. Those Cheneys are such a class act...
they jes makes ya proud ta be a Numurkin
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:08 AM
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11. Oh, give me a break
Please. She was a paid operative with the Bush/Cheney campaign, who was known to be out by the campaign, the White House and everyone. She is OPENLY gay.

Hey, she's a part and parcel of a anti-gay administration with a vehemetly anti-gay agenda. So, she's fair game for anyone who would criticize this administration.

And it would be better, I think, to be a son of a bitch than a daughter of a evil, slimy prick.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:15 AM
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26. Wasn't she also Coors liason to the gay community?
What an insufferable woman. She is surprised someone mentioned her sexual orientation when she has apparently made a career out of exploiting it for monetary and political gain? Please.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:21 AM
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32. Yes, she was.
Exactly right. She's a complete hypocrite.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:21 AM
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33. Would anybody bother to buy her book if she wasn't gay and the
Vice-President's daughter? Monetary gain? Has her sister completed a book? Compare the sales and the interest in the story. The sister hasn't written a book, since no one would buy it, even with her mother's relationship with the publishing industry.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:29 AM
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42. She won't find many buyers in my 'hood.
The only gay peeps that will buy it are the self hating log cabin types.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:08 AM
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12. Kerry didn't do anything wrong.
Mary Cheney is the daughter of a politician and she herself is involved in politics. She needs tougher skin. The GOP made homosexuality an issue, so she's fair game. It's not like she's a minor.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:00 PM
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69. Kerry is my favorite candidate ever, but this was a mistake
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:05 PM by karynnj
First off, logicly it was wrong: The question was whether people are born gay. He answered that "If you asked, Mary Cheney ....she would say ..." In fact, Kerry was assuming that this was Cheney's belief, he didn't know her. He should have said this was a question for physchologists or biologists, but many people he knew (or someone he knew) had said they though it was the way they were born.

The sad think is the rest of Kerry's answer was beautiful and very caring. Clearly, the intent was that when gay marriage came up and it would because the Republicans (including Mary Cheney) were using it for polical gain that they mention Mary Cheney. It works less well on this philosophical question. Seeing that Cheney admits that Kerry did not insult or out her - her comment seems overblown. I'm actually not sure what she means by it. Seeing what the campaign was doing to Kerry, she has absolutely no room to talk. In a political campaign where her mother was involved in the "Kerry is orange" and other things - that were attempts to question Kerry's unquestionable masculinity (and Edwards' - this was a campaign where he was disgustingly called "Breck Girl"), a comment that a known conservative Republican lesbian didn't choose to be gay embedded in a statement that gays were also God's children seems comparitively innocuous.

If I were the interviewer, I would ask her if she does feel that she was born gay. Because Mary Cheney is obviously close to her family and subscribes to the conservative philosophy, if sexual orientation were a choice it seems unlikely she would choose it. So, the likelihood is that Kerry's statement was true. Politicly, he shouldn't have done it, especially because from his voice it was clear that he was uncomfortable with that sentence, while very comfortable with the rest of that answer. He really should have followed his own gut and heart.

As to Cheney's words, Dick and Lynne obviously didn't bring her up right. Rosemary Kerry by everthing I've read was a very kind, generous, loving woman. John Kerry needs to stand up for his mom. Maybe Mary Cheney needs to look at the whole statement and realize that he would likely be more genuinely supportive to a gay relative than Lynne ever was.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:25 PM
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127. You know why I didn't have trouble with it?
Proportionally speaking, it was a grain of sand thrust in Cheney's face compared to the mountain of sludge that the swiftboaters gave Kerry. And if we can say anything about how the GOP works, they're so interconnected that there's no difference between one or the other.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:46 PM
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134. He was uncomfortable with it
Which is why it was a mistake. It's not his nature to use things like that for political gain and by that time in the campaign, his advisors should have understood that about him and not asked him to do stuff like that. If the intent was to point out the hypocrisy of the Cheney family and Republicans in general, he should have just been point blank about it. It is repulsive that they do that to her, whether she sees it or not.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:09 AM
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13. What a class act.
:puke: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I guess.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:09 AM
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14. "Crassly" trying to benefit an American "for his own political gain".
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM by Inland
To be on the payroll, like Mary Cheney, you have to make every act that is intended to help America look like "just politics" and "you know those politicians". That way, when fuckers like her Dad screw us over, they are statesmen. Sick
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #14
119. She must be thinking of our Iowa Senator: Chuck Crassly
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flashdebadge Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:09 AM
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15. I don't blame her for being pissed. Her orientation was none of anyones
business. Bringing it up served no purpose except for political gain as she states correctly. I think some in the GLBT community saw it the same way.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:12 AM
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24. Except her orientation was part of her job.
She was the spokesman for Coors to the gay and lesbian community. She's perfectly happy to trade on it, just as her dad is willing to trade on it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #15
25. Well this one didn't ...
people knew her orientation and to bring it up as an example shouldn't have been an issue.

Her and her ilk to have this "shock" about it are the ones politicizing it.

SHE is the son of a bitch
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #15
27. It was OUTED by her own family ... who USE THIS FACT
to have the nut-case right wingers *praise them* for not disowning her sinful "queer" a**. And she loves her role and made money to score jobs ... she's every bit as immoral as the rest of the other immoral Cheney creatures - From Hell! :puke:
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flashdebadge Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #27
34. I'm not sure how touting the fact that your daughter is gay helps you if
you are a republican. Their constituent base is not exactly accepting of gays you know.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. You forget who the rethuglican base is
...The have & the have mores--as stated by bush* are his base.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #34
59. It Doesn't Help With The Base.
It helps with independents and the undecided.

Jay
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #34
113. They're perfectly accepting of the gay/lesbian community, as long
as they spout right-wing talking points, pledge allegiance to The Village Idiot, and throw a boatload of money into the GOP kitty.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #34
136. To impress the independents and to tell the moderates
that he was not a far RW nutcase - in 2000.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #15
35. "some in the GLBT community saw it the same way."
IMO, the only people in the GLBT community who saw it that way are people like my brother--gay repukes who have sold their souls for their greed of power & money.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #35
43. Oh but it does, and Lynn plays the "sorrowful mother" to a tee
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:33 AM by ShortnFiery
Here's how it's played: You make sure that your operatives let everybody know Mary's gay but that poor poor Dick and Lynn are beside themselves ... well, she's a nice girl in every other way. Oh, I know, I know. Oh, it's not their fault and it's nice of them to try and help her go straight. These koolaid drinkers really believe that Lynn and Dick are trying to help her GET MORALITY.

That's what makes it the PERFECT Scam. Some Republican log cabin members believe that they're being open minded, but nothing could be further from the truth. It's a big CON. I don't know who are the true victims, the Gay Republicans or the Right Wingers who feel sorry for good old Ma and Pa Cheney. :( :thumbsdown:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #43
50. Were you responding to me, or the post above me?
:shrug:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #50
55. Oh sorry, I MEANT to respond to Post #34, duh!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:40 AM by ShortnFiery
Excuse please :blush:

As written by lashdebadge

34. I'm not sure how touting the fact that your daughter is gay helps you if

you are a republican. Their constituent base is not exactly accepting of gays you know.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #55
71. No problem....
No harm, no foul. :hi:


BTW, I love your sig line!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #43
82. There are very few people who light my temper fuse as quickly ...
as Lynne Cheney.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #35
58. I met gays at Kerry HQ who were fine with it
they understood what he was saying, and saw no offense

I remember some here thought it was touching what he said about being one of God's children. How is that wrong.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #35
163. Amen!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #15
39. My, what a very RW talking point. nt
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #39
103. Exactly.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #15
46. Political gain? Bullshit. What could he have gained?
If she thinks Democrats were the ones "using" homosexuals for political gain, then she has her head way too far up her ass to be saved.

She doesn't deserve the rights that we are trying to give all Americans...
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #46
121. You are absolutely right! n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #46
137. She was supposedly part of the team
that used the gay bashing amendments to get out the homophobes to vote.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #137
141. What a real class act, eh?
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #46
147. Amen!
"What was offensive was that he was obviously trying to use me and my sexual orientation for his own political gain.''

As if Republicans didn't use bigotry and homophobia for political gain?

My guess is she must have her eye on Daddy and Mommy Dearest's hunk o' millions. Once again, greed trumps integrity for the Republican machine.

Fuck her.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #15
47. Sweet fuckin' Jesus, a politician say something for political gain
and its the truth. Wow!

Man the lifeboats.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #15
54. You are right and I support you
As a political strategy it failed. Clearly the intent was to disparage her orientation to "win" repug sympathy and votes. Rather hypocritical. Both candidates could have done better. If the repugs did this to us we'd have a cow.:)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #54
64. I don't see it that way at all. They didn't disparage her orientation.
How does saying that she's one of God's creations disparage her orientation. It was more to show the hypocracy of the Republicans, that she supported the Republicans even though they could give a shit about her. Keyes called her a selfish hedonist. It was to show that Dems actually do support her. They were trying to disparage the Republicans if anything. And that wasn't going to win Republican sympathy or votes.

Whether or not it was badly executed is another matter.
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #64
96. Of course Keyes
threw his own lesbian daughter out of the house.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #64
105. No, we would not, because WE don't VILLIFY ourselves!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:12 PM by TankLV
Clear now?

Repukes VILLIFY gay people, democrats do not.

Very simple.

It's about the HYPOCRACY.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #105
133. I think you meant that for the person one step up from me
I agreed.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #64
176. A reasonable argument
While I do not completely agree with you, you are logical and civilized in your argument. Quite unlike the other response to me (sent incorrectly to you).
:toast:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:28 PM
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:44 PM
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149. No! While I don't know the absolute intent of Kerry, I seriously doubt
it was to disparage her orientation. It was more a poke at the hypocrisy of the Cheneys who would have intolerance towards people like their daughter written into the consitution.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:43 AM
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60. Her father didn't mind talking about it if it scored him political points
Humanizing Dr. No.

I grant you, it was in response to a question. But still. It was out there. And it pointed up the hypocracy and that Log Cabin Republicans are a very confused bunch. "I support a party that wishes I didn't exist."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:11 PM
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76. The point was that gays are FAMILY MEMBERS and SHOULDN'T be denied
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:12 PM by blm
any of the same civil rights. Being gay doesn't preclude one from being part of society, and the Cheney's don't practice exclusion themselves, so why does the GOP promote it at as a party?

That point seems to have slipped by Ms. Cheney, and no doubt it was POLITICAL POWER that skewed her comprehension that night.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:42 PM
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91. Umm.. she drew a FAT salary being gay professionally for Coors.
She has no right to suddenly claim that it's tacky for someone to discuss it. Why should she be ashamed of something that brings her hundreds of thousands of dollars? And why should she be upset when Bush and Cheney themselves have discussed it for their own purposes politically. It's not something to be ashamed of... being gay.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:07 PM
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102. You are the only one who saw it that way. NOBODY I know saw it that way.
You know SHIT about the "gay community".

But you come here to scold us, huh?

Maybe you would prefer "another" website, hmmmmm?

I doubt YOU are a "WE".
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:55 PM
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120. he didn't "out" her, it was a well known fact she was gay. He was
trying to make a point about acceptance and understanding. Everyone was aware of kerry's position on this issue.He gained nothing for himself by bringing it up.
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fightingdem Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:09 AM
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16. Well, she's a daughter of a bastard
So she should know.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM
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17. Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary - "Go Cheney Yourself, Baitch!"
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM
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18. She should hear what my brainless MEpublican brother says about gays.
Is she on crack?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:31 AM
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45. MEpublican!
Oh, that is perfect.

Thank you. I don't know what I'd do without you guys. I can die knowing I wasn't alone, now.


With Dick nearly a trillionaire, Mary wouldn't dare do anything to risk losing out on that. Just one facet of why she is what she is. Yuck. Humanity deserves better.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM
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19. Where, oh, where would Mary Cheney learn such salty language?
:think:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:11 AM
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21. Poor woman
She is the personification of identity confusion. :eyes:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:17 AM
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28. Look at your own mother, darling
is all that needs to be said.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:20 AM
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30. what will her response be if she and 'her kind" were treated ...
...like the repubs would like to treat her-arrested and denied her civil liberties?would she be calling a son of a bitch like Kerry to fight on her behalf then?what a fucking hypocrite.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:21 AM
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31. I Guess the Truth Hurts Lynn the Spin Cheney
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.... poor baby.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:25 AM
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36. Give me a break Mary, Mary quite contrary!!
ALL was fair game in the debates, just like * used the "swift boat" gang that tried to discredit Kerry's Vietnam service. Maybe she should be remembering that Daddy is a member of the "everyone else but us white Christians" haters club.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:26 AM
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38. Nice mouth ...
for a truck driver.

Hey Mary .... if I ever have to misfortune to met your sorry ass, I won't mouth the words .... I say it to your face, loud and proud ....

GO FUCK YOURSELF!

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:27 AM
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40. Kerry sounded like an idiot w/the lesbian remark. Just 1 of many mistakes
Edited on Wed May-10-06 11:28 AM by mtnsnake
during that dreadful campaign that cost us the White House.

At least Edwards was very tactful about his discussion of it during his debate with asshole Cheney. Kerry should've just STFU. His remark came right out of left field and sounded about as sincere as a carnival barker selling snake oil.

Said Kerry, "We're all God's children," he said. "And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was."

I'll never forget the way he said it, strongly emphasizing the "who is a lesbian" part. I turned to my wife and told her Kerry might have just sealed his fate.

Having said that, screw all the Cheney's and what they think. Assholes all of them in that family.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:42 PM
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90. Kerry's performance during the debates was not perfect.
But Bush showed himself to be a total idiot, no matter how the media spun it.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:00 PM
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124. Well, they were near perfect! n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #40
123. The repubs made an issue out of this because Bush was losing another
debate. Kerry was gaining a lot of ground.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
145. Oh PLEASE
Yes, why don't you defend Mary Cheney's rank hypocrisy and faux outrage, and the fact that she doesn't mind being used to whore for Republican votes? Because that helps you discredit John Kerry and pimp for Hillary Clinton, which is the only reason you are on DU as far as I can tell.

The whole "scandal" was another disgusting Republican sham, like every other fake bullshit they invent to pretend that Democrats are so big and bad and mean. How utterly you play into their hands when you validate their bullshit just so you can get your rocks off on a cheap slam at Kerry. Our side certainly doesn't need people like you campaigning for it, that's for sure.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:52 PM
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166. I'm discrediting Kerry because I'm pimping for Hillary? HAHAHAHA!!!
That's a good one!

Nope, I never "pimp" for Hillary, not on purpose anyway. I occasionally stick up for her, though, just like you do for Kerry, only I do it without making ridiculous accusations against other posters like that "pimping" crock, lol.

FYI, Hillary isn't my favorite even though I like her and even though I think she gets underrated here. Anyone who knows me knows General Clark is the one who I hope gets the nod, as far as from the current list of candidates we have anyway.

Cheap slam my ass. Kerry DID sound like an idiot when he made that remark. It was an important mistake he made, one of many mistakes that contributed to him losing to a total moron.

Don't get me entirely wrong, though. Just because I said he sounded like an idiot, which he did, it doesn't mean I think he's an idiot. John Kerry is a smart man, a fine senator, but a lousy campaigner.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:12 PM
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168. Oh bullshit. All you ever do on DU is make cheap slams at Kerry
You don't respect him, so stop trying to pretend you do. You have NOTHING good to say about him, ever, and disparage him every chance you get. The fact that you're using this thread to attack KERRY instead of the hypocritical whore-bitch Mary Cheney speaks volumes.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:26 PM
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177. No. All YOU do is whine like a madman whenever someone tells the truth
about what a horrible campaign Kerry ran. And don't give me that same lying crap you give everyone else about how mine or anyone elses purpose on DU is to slam Kerry. FYI, I've started more threads with constructive ideas about how to help the party than all the times you've posted with your whiney assed posts everytime someone criticized Kerry on this board. Your entire purpose on DU is to slam anyone with idiotic insults who dares to say anything negative about your idol, who you drool over like a 12 year old strung-out groupie.

If you don't like it that Kerry ran a dreadful campaign or that he screwed up royally and sounded like an idiot when he made the lesbian comment, then TOO FRIGGIN BAD FOR YOU.

Now why don't you have some more whine with that cheese!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:27 AM
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41. Kerry's reference to Ms. Cheney was aimed at clarity and acceptance.
If the little fool would re-read the passage of that debate and learn the context of Kerry's remarks, she might have less time to grandstand like this. She's the heiress of a shitpile of money and it appears to have eroded her good judgment. Shame on her.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:28 PM
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128. Your post would be a very good base for a thread specifically addressing
what was actually said and the context in which it was said.

Just in case any journos tap into DU today.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:45 PM
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150. Hi, blm. I appreciate your comments, and as I re-read the thru the thread
I am wondering if this isn't a young woman (Mary Cheney vs. Mary-Cheney-daughter-of-the-Vice-President) who has not yet given herself permission to defy mommy and daddy.

Not for the sport of defying authority figures, but for the soul-fuel adults must have before they can truly call themselves grown-ups.

It happens late for some people. I'm not knocking that. It happens way earlier for the rest of us, though, sometimes at 12 or 18 or 25, and it might be better for Mary Cheney to consider herself independent of that inheritance. Is she Daddy's little girl or her own independent woman?

These are just my halfass observations. I don't know these people and so my insights are just guesses. But I heard Kerry's and Edwards' references to Mary Cheney, and there was no cheap political gain in their remarks. Either Mary is missing the context because she can't perceive the context, or she's missing it on purpose for her dad's political gain.

O how glorious it will be when these assholes are out of the White House.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:30 AM
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44. May I remind Mary...

... that SOB went to war to defend her right to be gay... More than her parents or anyone she knows for that matter, would do...
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:31 AM
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48. Well, when gays finally achieve full citzenship in this country
lets make sure that John Kerry introduces a rider to exempt Mary Cheney since she seems to think everything is just hunky-dory under W and Daddy's administration.

TlalocW
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:32 AM
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49. Gay marriage was a 2004 Republican ISSUE !
Kerry/Edwards merely pointed out their hypocrisy :evilgrin:

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:39 AM
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56. Precisely. She sounds ashamed
of her orientation. She's an apologist for her parents' affiliation with denying American citizens their civil rights. She needs to grow a spine and stand up for herself and her partner. She's much too old to be playing the dutiful, obedient daughter.
Or is she too locked into her dependency of Cheney money...
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:34 AM
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51. Name calling is not new nor restricted to the right
IIRC there was an open microphone gaf with Kerry during the campaign along those lines.

Kerry/Edwards trashtalked Bush/Cheney and vice versa. The respective family members support their loved ones. This is newsworthy? Is it surprising that gay children still love and support thier parents. That is so *gasp* normal of them.

Must be a slow day in the blogosphere
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. Since Mary Cheney is promoting her book and
called a distinguished Senator, who fought for her right to be Gay, "An SOB."

Yeah, she's fair game for criticism.

Her and her smarmy Sister, Liz ... their behavior and lack of integrity ... well it disgusts me.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:58 AM
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67. Any repuke is fair game with or without a book
but the outrage here smells like astroturf. When members of groups normally identified with the Democratic Party go against the orthodoxy, the result is outrage and backlash, which I believe is counter productive. I think much of the noise about Mary Cheney is because she is gay and supports her dad. Would any of this had been newsworthy otherwise? (of course could she have a book deal too)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:03 PM
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70. No, I despise the STRAIGHT laced Liz Cheney every bit as much ...
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:05 PM by ShortnFiery
And she's getting her hands dirty supporting this corrupt * Administration. :puke:

p.s. Yes, calling a distinguished combat veteran "a SOB" ... yeah, that sort of pisses me off. :P
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:15 PM
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107. It's about the IGNORANCE and HYPOCRACY.
Clearer now for ya?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:17 PM
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80. "Trash-talked" - so - being gay is something to be ashamed of?
Got it.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:19 PM
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126. I don't think you have a clue
My point is that both sides slagged each other regularly and continue to. That Mary Cheney supported her father is and her actions is not surprising nor newsworthy and in that regards, that she is gay is irrelvent.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #126
170. No, you appear to have missed the point
Saying that Mary Cheney is a lesbian is only "slagging" her and her father if calling someone a lesbian is an insult, and something to be ashamed of. That Mary Cheney took faux offense to Kerry's innocuous comment just shows her rank, stinking hypocrisy and her willingness to USE her sexual orientation for pity points, all while she eagerly campaigned for the most anti-gay candidate in recent memory. She's a soulless whore.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:36 AM
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52. "Gee, he reminded me SO much of dad"
For all we know, to her, being a son of a bitch is a positive.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:40 AM
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57. Hmm
Why should Mary Cheney opinions matter to me at all? The only interview question I want to hear from her is... why she thinks it's OK for homosexuals to be treated like second class citizens. Edward pointed out in the debate the complete hypocrisy of her own fathers platform. That's what pissed her off. He pointed out people like her care more for money and power than they do about there own rights. Scary.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:08 PM
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73. people like her care more for money and power than they do about there own
On another plane of predjudice and discrimination: I give you J. C. Watts. :(
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:44 AM
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61. He was trying to use it for HER fucking political gain,
but she is too fucking stupid to realize it.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:59 AM
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68. BINGO. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:44 AM
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62. good thing we have bush's and cheney's to teach us about christianity
would be totally lost without them showing me the way.

assholes

hey.... that was the one time kerry tried to be the same as repugs and got his ass handed to him as he should have. many on this board felt kerry should get in the slime anlong with the repugs. jsut doesnt work nor look good with men like kerry
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:45 AM
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63. Hey Mary, I got me an idea
Why don't you go to a Republican bar in, oh, say, Wyoming, one of them places with pick up trucks with big Dubya stickers all over them, and announce you're a big ol' dyke? See what your party really thinks of you. You go girl.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:10 PM
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104. Yep, Wyoming, which her dad represented in Congress
Go on up there, Mary, and introduce yourself around. And your girlfriend!! I'm sure they've got a thing or two to say to ya!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:56 AM
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66. So, um, she's saying that being gay is something to be ashamed of?
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:01 PM by MH1
Why else would she have a problem with someone mentioning it?

I mean if a candidate tried to play up his newly discovered Native American ancestry in an election as somehow making him more sensitive to Native American issues, I can imagine some Native American folk might be critical of it as "pandering" or something, but to call him a "son of a bitch" for it? Get real. Feigning "hurt" to have it mentioned, implies that one is ashamed of it.

note I am being intentionally hypothetical there (I started with a version closer to reality except that the playing up didn't happen, afaik) ...substitute any ethnic or cultural group you'd like for "Native American" and see how it plays. I think it plays about the same - no "son of a bitch" epithet seems appropriate. And for someone who isn't ashamed of their gayness, why should it play any differently?

(if I'm wrong, you folks who know better, please correct me.)

Edit to add: it seems to me that those who are gay and proud should be ashamed of this self-hating wimpette, rather than her being ashamed to belong to that community.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:06 PM
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72. I guess it takes one to know one.
Okay. I want the Kerry daughters to get into this!
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:09 PM
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74. nancy reagan's book "My Turn" mary cheney's "Now It's My Turn"
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:11 PM by GreatCaesarsGhost
get the connection?

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:11 PM
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75. Something is sooooo wrong with Mary ...
and obviously she's oblivious to it.

I guess the inheritance is that important to her.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:12 PM
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77. Kerry didn't make it an issue, HER FATHER did!
Hypocritical bitch.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:16 PM
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79. That particular gene pool needs to be retired. n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:38 PM
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87. amen to that! n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:17 PM
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81. Mary Chaney, the apologist.
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:17 PM by Javaman
Seems as if she has inherited her class from her father.

She is the child that votes like its parents until one day, that child realizes that its parents were full of shit. Until that day, the child lives in denial and apologizes for its parents bullshit.

She will wake one day and be scared shitless at what she sees.

then suddenly, she will realize the evil she has done. In the mean time, let here join the other repukes that live in denial, the log-cabin repukes.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:30 PM
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84. She's a textbook case of cognitive dissonance.
n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:13 PM
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106. Whatever. Just as long as she can't get married.
She may be wealthy. She may be lesbian. But first and foremost, she's a moran!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:35 PM
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86. Kerry brought it up because he knows the Republican base are bigots
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:36 PM by Quixote1818
Sure he did it for political gain but because he knew the people who vote for Bush are slime bags who HATE Mary Cheney just because she is Gay. She should be upset at them not Kerry who was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the Republican party.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:39 PM
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88. Hey Mary - Go F yourself!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:41 PM by marylanddem

and who gives a rat's ass what she has to say in a book anyway?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:40 PM
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89. She made a fucking LIVING with Coors off of her GAYNESS..
and she has the nerve to call those guys names for discussing? Is it a requirement to be a hypocrite, or is she pushing for her own Faux News show? Or public office?
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:47 PM
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94. Spoiled foul mouthed brat
If you ask me!:puke:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:54 PM
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97. And she is continuing to do it with her new book and speaking tour n/t
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:45 PM
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92. I wonder if DICK & Lynne view homosexuality as an "illness".
And that it should be kept all hush-hush?
Is Mary ashamed of her sexual orientation? Could be?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:47 PM
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93. I got news for you Mary. EVERYONE KNEW YOU WERE GAY BEFORE
Kerry said anything. Can you imagine if a white politician had a black daughter and someone said "He has a black daughter" and the black daughter getting all upset at the person for stating a FACT?????????? You can't win with Mary, she is upset if people don't accept that she is gay and she gets upset if someone mentions it. FUCK YOU BITCH!!!!!
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tired of the right Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:49 PM
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95. I wonder why she didn't add her father to the 'good man' statement
Could she have inadvertently allowed a truth to escape by excluding him from that statement? Because seriously, Cheney is not a good man and although he probably loves his daughter on some level, he used her sexual preference against her in the campaign. Yet she doesn't see this? Why doesn't Diane Sawyer ask the obvious followup question?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:57 PM
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98. Who cares what that person thinks?
Is that person important for some reason? Did they do something significant to the extent that I ought to care about their opinion? They sound rather crude and boring to me.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:58 PM
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99. Will mary's a son of
bitch, too.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:58 PM
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100. Frankly
I am amazed and will always BE amazed at gay people who continue to support this administration. Mary Cheney obviously puts her own sexual nature secondary to her "love" for her family and other close people. But there are so many who are nothing but utter hypocrites who continue to deny their inner core of being by doing one thing and saying the other.

All those gay-boy Reps, like my "favorite" David Dreier, for example, who will cruise Hollywood Blvd for young men to pick up, and then goes and sponsors bills to keep gays from gaining any advantages. All those "Log Cabin" pukes who will rather keep their feelings in check while they root for the greed, arrogance and intolerance of the reich wing, will someday find they have neither traction nor gains and they will be, like so much fodder for the reich, tossed aside conveniently.

I don't know exactly what the general gay population would do when the tide is turned against the pukes, but I hope a percussive "I told you so!" will ring out when it happens, and make them think twice about what their priorities are.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:58 PM
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101. Hey mary - go cheney yourself - you LITERAL BITCH!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:01 PM by TankLV
or cow - maybe not a cow - a cow gives milk and serves a useful, good purpose!

While John Kerry - WAR HERO, unlike your chickenshit COWARD LIAR WAR CRIMINAL father - would PROTECT AND DEFEND YOU, while your sorry excuse of a sperm donor is EMBARASASED BY YOU AND WOULD PREFER YOU DIDN'T EXIST and is supporting policies TO MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL!
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:15 PM
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108. Trust me. She is not admired by the gay community.
She is nothing but a sell-out for promoting the gay agenda. I know many people who would not piss on her if she was on fire. Get back in the closet skank. As soon as she makes some money on this piece of crap book of hers she will fade away again. Her own father hates what she is. What does she mean that they have not "caught up on these issues"? They know what she is and they do not want her to have any rights regarding her homosexuality.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:17 PM
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109. Mary dear, go Cheney yourself! Oh! You're already Cheneyed up. Nevermind
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:20 PM
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110. The entire Cheney clan is loathsome. It's the REPUBLICANS,
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:20 PM by AzDar
after all, who politicized the issue of sexual orientation in the FIRST PLACE (sanctity of marriage.. blah,blah,blah...gimme a f&*king break!).
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:30 PM
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111. How sad
She's really quite pitiful. It's obvious that she's full of self loathing and has a pathological need to self destruct. Internalized homophobia is common among gays & lesbians, but most of us get over that as we grow up. It's just a tragedy that the poor thing is stuck in her adolescence and is unable to accept herself. She should certainly seek some professional help. It's obvious she could use it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:37 PM
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115. What a pathetic hypocrite.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:45 PM
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116. Mary's father is a bastard for killing so many people
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:51 PM by lebkuchen
I just saw a CNNI clip of our soldiers being driven to an army hospital in Iraq. One guy's leg was blown wide open, and he was begging doctors to save his life. When the doc told the soldier he would live because he wouldn't give him permission to die, the soldier asked if his leg (and arm) could be saved. The doctor told him truthfully that he didn't know.

As the clip ended, we were told the soldier would survive but we don't know the status of the leg and arm. Another soldier driven in had been administered CPR for 30 minutes as the humvee drove to the clinic. He was dead.

So Mary, "fuck you" to you and your father. Your waving the gay banner in my face to malign Kerry in an effort to save your father's sorry ass is at the expense of undermining everything that all groups historically discriminated against have fought for and against for eons. You are disgrace, like your father.

It may be that your father is rightfully haunted forever because he shot his lawyer friend in the face, but the fact that he doesn't give two hoots for the thousands of soldiers and civilians killed and maimed by his hand should be a red flag to you to get into therapy before your genes start catching up with you.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:50 PM
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117. as a gay boy.....
I fight hard not to HATE, literally HATE people and families like the Cheney's...

Good heavens, they're sick bastards. The parents are vehemently either against gays, or, are willing to negate their daughter's human pride for political gain, either way, they're sick fuckers.

How dare she call Kerry a son of a b. And ironically say the SAME lewd remark about Edwards as her Daddy Dick did about Sen. Leahy.



YOU GOTTA GO TO THIS SITE ------> there's a SHITLOAD of hilarious STICKERS & SHIRTS

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:52 PM
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118. Selling her soul to sell her book. STFU.
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thoughttheater Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:57 PM
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122. Mary For Hire
Mary comes from a family of paid mercenaries...they fight battles for money and power. Now that dad and daughter don't have a reelection campaign to run, she can pursue money and power in a different way...hey...isn't there another name name for that profession?...I think there is. I would rather be an SOB than a money and power HO. I won't be enabling her buy buying her book.

read more observations here:

www.thoughttheater.com
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:09 PM
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125. Just who in the fuck would read her book besides Lynne.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:30 PM
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129. she gets that potty mouth from her daddy, she is her daddy's girl...
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:35 PM
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130. Interesting book reviews on Amazon.com..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/141652049X/sr=1-1/qid=1147288790/ref=sr_1_1/102-6309916-6735324?%5Fencoding=UTF8

They are either puking in disgust or praising her courage. After reading the inserts I may add my own review. Wonder if she talks about how she wasn't on the stage at the end of the GOP convention with all the other family members.

Here are some of the reviews:

I don't know what this book is trying to accomplish, it's neither history or a good political analysis nor a good biography. It seems like a bunch of poorly written passages hurried together to make money before her father's tenure. Her silence before the book makes it suspect
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I enjoyed "Sisters" more. , May 10, 2006
Reviewer: Beulah - See all my reviews
My guess is that this book is silently being bought by the thousands by Rupert Murdoch, Richard Mellon-Scaife, Mary's own mother Lynne, of "Sisters" fame, Lucianne Goldberg, and of course, every conservative website in the country, to be given away at dinner parties, as a complimentary gift when people subscribe, etc. Don't wait for Matt Drudge and Andrew Sullivan's opinions. They still have their fingers in the breeze formulating their opinions. Wait till this book is remaindered, (if you have to), then snatch up a copy when it gets as low as $1 a copy or lower. Mark my words, when Mary Cheney is the first lady to the first lesbian President in the U.S.A., this book will be as hard to find as hens' teeth, and will become even harder to find after Mary pulls her permission to republish, giving as a reason: "It's not my best work."

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Mary Cheney is the national poster child for the biggest traitor to the gay and lesbian movement in the last decade.

Her father's reaction when, at age 16, she told him she was a lesbian. "You're my daughter and I love you and I just want you to be happy."

Right. Her father is all love and kittens when it's Dick's own family; but the rest of us can go fck ourselves.

In the promotion material for her book she says she almost quit her job with the 2004 campaign when President Bush endorsed the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban same-sex marriage. "But I'd made a commitment to the campaign and my family, and I knew how crucial it was to win this election. I was working for a candidate I knew I could count on, a man I could support without reservation. I was working for my dad."

Does it make any difference that her "Dad" is a neo-conservative elistist homophobic energy lobby whore? apparently not.

"I am and have always been very open and honest about who I am."
<...>

On John Kerry mentioning her sexuality during one of the presidential debates. "I was furious. It was a blatant and sleazy political ploy."

Yeah, whatever Mary. You can't be both "very open and honest" and then get all hurt that it's mentioned publicly. That's not how it works. What part of "pride" was lost on you? What a squandered chance to educate Bushies... but then squandering chances is what BushCo does best, isn't it?

Mary - you're an embarassment.

I'm trying to figure out who you're audience is? Queers and progressives aren't the audience, because we see her (correctly) as a Judas; and conservatives aren't the audience because her very existence is anathema to them; so, who?

Can anyone hear Mary Cheney say "We're just waiting for the state and federal laws to catch up with us" and not notice the disconnect from reality?
---------------------------
Run, run to the store to get this heartwarming book about one of America's leading families. American to the core, this book will leave you asking for more. You won't be able to put it down.





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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:41 PM
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132. mother is a dyke author...
the apple didn't fall far from the tree

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:48 PM
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135. Gee Mary..that ""SOB" was taking shrapnel in Nam while your Daddy...
..."had other priorities": i.e.:stateside frat parties and two(2)DWIs.

:grr:
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zyberg Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:03 PM
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178. I thought the SOB gave himself the shrapnel, self inflicted like,,,
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:14 PM
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138. How dare she talk about John's mother that way?
After all, Mary Cheney is most definitely a daughter of a dick! She learned that language from somewhere....

Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney both did some stupid things for political gain, including this. But Bush/Cheney are the ones who win on anti-gay bigotry, Kerry and Edwards support Mary Cheney's rights a lot more than her own father does.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:15 PM
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139. Face it, she's a "daughter of a dick"
you know the saying: "Dick Cheney, before he dicks you!"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:17 PM
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140. I kind-of agree with her, but not the son-of-a-bitch part.
Edited on Wed May-10-06 03:19 PM by LoZoccolo
I think the subtle thing people are missing is that when he brought up Mary Cheney, he was actually trying to turn off part of Bush*'s base by making Cheney look gay-friendly. I think there was a DU article about how it was a "subtle gay-bash". But if Bush*/Cheney weren't trying to attract voters who want to legislate around sexuality then it wouldn't be an issue. So she did get used, but they set themselves up for being vulnerable in that way by relying on the votes that they do.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:23 PM
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142. Like father, like daughter
The apple didnt fall far from the tree , did it.

Pure class.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:25 PM
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143. Can I call Mary Cheney a daughter of a bastard?
Cause it's true,

The Plaid Adder
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:35 PM
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146. Can you spell 'hypocrite'??
Didn't think so, Mary.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:40 PM
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148. If something bad happens to Humanity and we live in small villages,
She would not be welcome unless the peeps are of like mind...Who wants a whiner with a dirty mouth...
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:48 PM
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151. She's a disgusting whore
She devalues herself as a woman and as a lesbian every time she apologizes for the most hostile anti-gay administration in recent history. If she cared about her dignity as a lesbian, she would have supported John Kerry.
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DiscoJazz Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:55 PM
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152. Is there any chance . . .
. . . that she was inspired by S. Colbert and she's just
daring to "speak truth to power"? 
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:31 PM
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160. Probably not.
Unless Kerry is some position of power.

Welcome to DU, enjoy your visit.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:17 PM
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173. What truth? The truth that she's a whore for a party that HATES her?
WTF, enjoy your brief stay at DU.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:58 PM
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153. Oh, those Cheney's...
everything is *fuck* with them. What a sweet family, just chocked full of republican family morals. :sarcasm:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:07 PM
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:22 PM
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156. Is that you, wingnut?
You took a wrong turn and ended up in the adult section.

Now go away.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:26 PM
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158. Go ahead & we'll crash your "blog" like before...
Edited on Wed May-10-06 04:27 PM by Cooley Hurd
Paranoid redneck moran...:rofl:


P.S. make sure you spell my name right - it's Cooley Hurd (heaven knows repiglicans can't spell:dunce:).
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:35 PM
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161. This again?
Please, look into a new hobby. This one is dopey and unbalanced.
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:48 PM
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164. Please..
Oh no, don't threaten us with your 3 comment blog! Ohhhh nooooeees!


(You're not a blogger, you just cry a lot.)
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:49 PM
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165. Welcome to DU.
Was this your first troll encounter here?

We do so loves our chewtoys.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:31 PM
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159. sounds like she is just like her old man
a self-hating lesbian
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:39 PM
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162. as if she sint setting gays back by not calling out all
the pieces of crap around her. You cant just pick and choose, and I happen to agree Kerry had no business to specifically call her out.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:53 PM
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167. bwwwwwwwwwwwaaa
:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:15 PM
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171. Mary, you pander for the political party who wants your kind eradicated.
Your opinion on anything is invalid.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 02:29 AM
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180. Exactly. If JK's mom is a bitch, Mary Cheney is a DIRTY WHORE. nt
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:16 PM
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172. What a stupid, hypocritical &%$@#
The "son of a bitch" phrase should be reserved for the Propagandist.

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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:29 PM
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174. so what did Mary think of her mother
and her novel with the lesbian love scene and the interview that her Mom had with Terri Gross about her lesbianism... strange interview with Lynne dancing on a razor
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:39 PM
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175. It's only about political gain when it's the other side mentioning it.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 02:23 AM
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179. this is what a filthy rich lesbian bitch sounds like ...I've never had the
opportunity to know one. All my gay friends are not assholes like this woman!!! Must be the daily dose of OIL!!!
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