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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:30 PM
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Folks, SPRINT back-stabbed its customers too!
Telecoms let NSA spy on calls - Feb 5, 2006
By Leslie Cauley and John Diamond, USA TODAY

The National Security Agency has secured the cooperation of large telecommunications companies, including AT&T, MCI and Sprint, in its efforts to eavesdrop without warrants on international calls by suspected terrorists, according to seven telecommunications executives.

The executives asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of the program. AT&T, MCI and Sprint had no official comment.

more...

We have Sprint local phone service...for about as long as it takes me to move us to Vonage.
:mad:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:33 PM
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1. Vonage is great, I've had it for over a year...Cost, service & frills, but
Edited on Thu May-11-06 08:55 PM by LaPera
if your cable goes out...

I have Sprint cell phone, but not much good here in the hills & forest where I live...
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:39 PM
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2. Yeah, I know.
Thankfully our cable broadband has gotten a lot more reliable since I yelled at them last year and had a senior tech out to check exterior wiring. The thing that worries me about Vonage is we really rely on our fax machine and fax usage is extremely hit or miss on VOIP. But I'm determined to deal with that.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:53 PM
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3. My cable company (Cox Communications) is pretty reliable...Perhaps
Edited on Thu May-11-06 09:03 PM by LaPera
once every couple of month's it may go down for a few hours...

But not to steer you away from Vonage... power outages, (which are common here in the winter on the CA N Coast) are also a problem.

But 95% plus of the time its truly great, (I don't know where you are located) just make sure you have a top of the line modem and router and you'll have very few (if any) problems.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:12 PM
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12. We're in C. FL, power outages are a given!
But we tend to power down our computers and stay off the phone during our hideous thunderstorms anyway.

Our cable service goes down like yours, a few hours every couple of months for maintenance. That's reasonable. We honestly don't use our phone much -- we use Skype a lot instead -- but we do need to be able to receive faxes once a day. I read on the Vonage fax forum that there's a service called maxemail.com that will convert faxes sent to you to .pdf format for $14.99 a year. I'm going to check that out, perhaps it will work as a backup if our fax machine dislikes Vonage.

Thanks for the info and advice!
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:59 PM
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9. Make the external number an e-fax account
For both inbound/outbound, you can hook a cell data card up to your computer, and have e-fax. :)
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:14 PM
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13. Eh?
En Anglais? What's an external number? What's a cell data card? Will that still allow the sender to use a regular fax machine to send to us? Sorry, my geek-ese is rusty!
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:28 PM
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14. Go here
www.efax.com

Cell data card is a cell modem that goes in your computer, so you can use a cell phone company to get to the internetS.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:39 PM
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15. Thanks! (nt)
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:04 PM
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5. I have vonage and a comcast cable connection..
Haven't had down time in over a year (and even then, it was because some idiot backed into the cable box on the street).
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:54 PM
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4. Sprint IS the NSA!
Edited on Thu May-11-06 08:56 PM by TheDebbieDee
How else could they have afforded to dump a multi-billion development project like ION in early 2002 and stay in business?

BTW, before anyone asks, NO! I don't have a link to any article, it's just informed speculation on my part.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:30 AM
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18. Better offer?
I hadn't heard of ION before, just read a little about it. Sounds like they bit off way more than they could chew at the time. If you're right and they traded that for a deal with BushCo, they're going to wish they'd stuck with the original plan....
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importDavid Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:46 AM
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21. I work at Sprint
NSA/FBI/DHS wiretaps are commonplace
Actually talked about media damage control in a meeting today
They've been receiving 1000's of calls about this
Nuff said
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:08 PM
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6. No one who's used Sprint doesn't know this.
Since they pretty much single-handedly installed all of the lines in the Tallahassee, Florida area, you can't use a land line without giving them money. To avoid being a monopoly, they have to allow other companies to use their lines, but they charge a fee for it. So, they're like the legal phone mob. I don't know how it is in other places, but they're customer service here is shit. What are you going to do? Go to their competitors and pay them anyway?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:57 PM
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8. They don't let anyone else use their lines down here in N. Osceola cty
It's Sprint or VOIP! I was told by BellSouth about a year ago (I considered moving to them because Sprint doesn't provide broadband to ussins in the boonies and cable broadband's expensive) that BellSouth doesn't serve my area because Sprint has the monopoly. Which ticked me off no end, but when there's no alternative what're you supposed to do?

We have GOT to bust these telcos up again. It's time. I am sick to death of being held captive to poor service and lack of interest, and then getting a kick in the teeth on top of it with this NSA crap.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:11 PM
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20. I'm with you on that.
We just have to get the corporatist whores out of office. Assuming voting works.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:32 PM
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7. I heard Qwest was the only company that refused to comply
And is it true the companies were mining data to be sold to marketers? That as scary as the NSA getting your info. Sheesh.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:04 PM
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11. You know they sold it to the NSA too
As good as. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing. What was the post I was reading earlier, that killing Net Neutrality might have been Congress's thank-you to the telcos for rolling over? Wouldn't surprise me a bit. They got something for doing what they did without requiring court orders, for sure.

I can't wait to call Sprint and tell them where they can shove it.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:00 PM
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10. Working Assets Uses Sprint Lines
Just so y'all know.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:44 PM
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16. Sprint owns Nextel and Boost Mobile as well. nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:08 AM
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17. I read that earlier and was surprised.
But their use of Sprint's lines isn't necessarily a reflection on Working Assets. They're a reseller and have to deal with the big telcos just like every other reseller, because it's the telcos who own the lines.

We seriously need to bust up the telcos again. The Repukes have let monopolies run rampant for too long.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:48 AM
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19. kicking because not everyone knows...
...I didn't :evilfrown:
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