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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:38 PM
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Has There Been A Comprehensive List Of Phone Companies?
Has a comprehensive list of phone companies that cooperated with the NSA travesty been compiled?

I ask as a person who has a small local phone company and uses one of the smaller cell phone operators too.

By the way, if I go to Google and put in my home (hard wire) phone number it gives both my name and my wifes name along with 3 options for maps to get to my house - two of which are quite accurate. When I do the same thing with my cell number I get no hits at all.

Hmmmmmmm ......
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unsavedtrash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:41 PM
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1. my local news (Birmingham, AL) said Verizon, Bellsouth, and AT&T n/t
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:43 PM
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2. Not comprehensive, not that I know of
But CNET surveyed 27 major comm companies 3 months ago and 15 went on record as saying they never took part in NSA's extralegal program.

http://news.com.com/Some+companies+helped+the+NSA%2C+but+which/2100-1028_3-6035305.html?tag=nl
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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:55 PM
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3. CNET survey...
Edited on Thu May-11-06 10:56 PM by wwcsmd
"Have you turned over information or opened up your networks to the NSA without being compelled by law?

BellSouth Communications - No"
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 10:57 PM
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4. Ho!
Looked right past that. Sleaze factor for those sumbitches just went up a magnitude.
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wwcsmd Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 11:32 PM
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5. No prob ...
"BS" is my local provider, so that's the first thing I looked for.

My first instinct this afternoon was to call and switch my service to Vonage. I'd been meaning to look into switching to them anyway just to save some $. (Though I thought it might be a *really* busy day for any non Verizon, Bellsouth, AT&T alternatives.) I've been keeping an eye out for info about Vonage's, or any other alternatives, position (of course, as demonstrated, you don't always get the truth out of the company.)

I'm not really comfortable about losing phone service anytime I lose either power or internet though, since I don't have a cell phone for backup. This sounds interesting though: "A conversation on a Vonage line is actually more secure than one over an ordinary phone line. A VoIP conversation is broken up into pieces called packets. These packets are sent over the Internet and reassembled at the listener’s end. Packets contain no meaningful identifiers in them. Your account information, for example, is not transmitted in these packets. The packets don’t necessarily take the same path over the Internet, and will travel only to the intended location (the listener). This means that someone can’t simply tap into your conversation, or redirect your packets somewhere else."
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:04 AM
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6. That's all true
But as the topic of the day makes clear, your comm provider is the weak point you can't subvert. You'll still need to find out if Vonage or whomever has thrown their lot in with Bushco's surveillance.
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