63% say that the NSA Spying is "warranted"?

Just now saw on GMA that an ABC poll crunched overnight have 63% saying the NSA is justified.

I do not believe this. Who were they polling?

Edited for spelling.

Added: Rodeodance subsequently posted information about this poll in another thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2279032

Hello???

How does the report that the NSA is building a database of Americans' phone calls make you feel?

Creepy 77% 108019 votes

More secure 23% 32373 votes
Total: 140392 votes
http://www.cnn.com/

This is what ABC's poll says RIGHT NOW. How is this 66% approval?


No, it is not acceptable no matter what the government says. 1,219
Yes, if the government says it is necessary to fight terrorism. 201
Total Vote: 1,420

Karl Rove and his suck asses! ABC is about as bad as FOX.

overnight. So, I suspect they polled some people on the street (they had a segment where they showed people being asked their opinion), and these people probably didn't realize the full story yet.

At least, I sure hope this, or something like this, happened.

A little flip of the numbers here and a flop there and presto, it looks great.

he is right!

out of 1420 voting,

1219 say "No, it is not acceptable no matter what the gov't says"
201 say "Yes, if the gov't says it's neccessary to fight terrorism"

That 66% number must come from them just polling the White House.

BTW, If anybody wants to, the site is

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/

So, whoever they were polling yesterday may not have realized the full implications or the full story as yet.

if this is to belived more people think today that Bush is doing a good job protecting American privacy rights then he was last week.

It also has Bush doing better with Republicans and Conservitives then he was the week before GIVE ME A BREAK! Lies, transparent lies.

This isn't that hard to figure out. Here at DU, we constantly
have demonstrations of *DOZENS* of people at a time who are
willing to give away the free-speech rights of *OTHERS*.

Why does it come as a surprise to anyone that folks are willing
to give away the privacy rights of "others"?

Tesha

We, excuse me, they deserve a dictatorship....

:wtf:

One-way ticket to Toronto, please.

in the coming weeks, as people have more time to fully realize what all this means. If people don't understand what a horrific infingement this is on their rights, they don't deserve to be Americans.

I don't think the people polled were aware yet of the implications.

PARTY/IDEOLOGY — There are partisan differences in views on the program: Eighty-five percent of Republicans call it acceptable, compared with 45 percent of Democrats. Crucially for the administration, six in 10 independents say the program passes muster.

Similarly, eight in 10 conservatives call the NSA program acceptable. Six in 10 moderates agree, as do more than four in 10 liberals.


support@abcnews.go.com

see new link in the OP for more info on the poll.

and in any event, majoritarianism is not a technique of argument.

Has it really come to this? I just saw Imus interviewing Tweety. Imus said that he just expected that our phone records were being tracked - and basically said what's the big deal? What the fuck?????? Every time I think this crime syndicate has finally jumped off the edge, the american public responds by saying "it's okay, we don't want privacy anymore"

are full of shit. PROPAGANDA! PROPAGANDA!

it. I wonder why they didn't show how much the upper classes were getting back from the tax cut.

the numbers had flip flopped

all yesterday all the polls showed strong dislike and outrage at spying, and today americans agree.

not believing it either

That's who they must be polling.

Either that or 63% don't know the 4th amendment of the Constitution.

but I don't think you "crunch" polling data

"crunched". Also, I agree, there should be no crunching involved in polling data (except, perhaps, for weighting).

1528 total: 1271 NO - 257 yes.


dp

wasn't anywhere near this high before this blockbuster. ABC you're telling me more people like it now ?


HA ha hah h hahah Ha ha hahha Haaa ha ha. snort.

I really doubt it that many more Americans said, "Yep. That's just great!"

CNN, Boston Globe, MSNBC all were polling about 70% that this illegal spying was NOT justified. I really hate GMA and their spinning for this mis-administration.

I just don't get it. Do these people need a history lesson?

I really don't get this "if you're not doing anything wrong, you should be concerned" bullshit. I wonder what these people would think if when they were out one day, the police came into their house, went through all of their drawers, read their email, read their mail, listened to their answering machine messages, and made notes and recordings and took pictures of all of their findings, and then left before they came home. I mean, if they're not doing anything wrong, they shouldn't be worried, right?

My god, do these people have any fucking understanding of what freedom and America is SUPPOSED to be?

The story just came out yesterday. Two out of three people that I talked to at Verizon hadn't heard anything about it. Hopefully they asked people if they were educated about it before they asked them if they had an opinion on it.

if they were educated on it. The poll came out too soon, I think, for real education on the issues involved.

Grrr...

I usually get an email from Zogby - has anyone else here seen anything from them?

"GMA reported today that a poll conducted by TNS revealed that 63% think that NSA wiretapping is "warranted".

What was ABC thinking to initiate a poll so soon after the USA Today article? How logical is it that the respondents to this poll even knew of the new information, or, if they did, that they had time to think about the implications?

Is ABC so eager to support the erosion of our 4th Amendment rights that they willing to sponsor an irresponsible poll?

Shame on you, ABC."

really aware that they giving answers for the wrong question.

Example: Do you believe wiretapping is ok to help fight terrorism? They answer Yes

Do you believe warrentless wiretapping is ok? They answer No.

It is all in the wording which is usually inaccurate.

That's why people blow up when they find the gov has been trolling in EVERYBODY'S phone calls and keeping the info forever. That's a situation that has none of the positive assumptions that may lurk in the question (going after only the guilty, or terrorists, and not merely mining, or doing something that works) and all of the negatives (builing huge database involving all americans secretly just because they can). Works better than any poll question because the issue is all in the details, not the platitudes.

It's always how the question is worded.

Propaganda, pure and simple. Every since you were a child figures of authority have been telling you, America is great America is great. And that the President (and to a lesser extent COngress) IS America.

Every instance of resistance to the all powerful state is recast by authority as "Rebellion" or "Riots", The Haymarket Square Riot, the Whiskey Rebellion, Dorr's Rebellion, the anarchists or socialists or communists or peaceniks or atheists or terrorists or liberals are all trying to subvert and destroy the President (or America).

For the good of the nation I, President Adams, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, Bush must crush these dissidents who threaten our way of life. I must enact the Alien & Sedition Laws, I must suspend Habeas Corpus, I must stop dissent against the War Effort, I must jail antiwar protesters, I must keep dossiers on enemies, I must listen to phone calls...

What I don't understand is how shocked (Absolutely shocked I tells ya) some of the DUers are on this subject.

Spying on Americans and culling dissent are a time honored tradition. Of course I'm too late into this discussion for anyone to read my post, but oh well, at least it's out there...

Who are outraged. 'See Americans believe it is okay, so don't worry about it anymore.'

Thank you for being captured by the NSA Network!

it isn't to soothe us, IMHO, it is to show us how dumb we are because the "majority" think it is ok. I think tje poll is also propaganda for those who do not as yet know what to thik.