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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:07 AM
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Where does Sprint sit on this NSA call logging crap?
I phoned our local provider yesterday and was told they use Sprint ... this was quickly followed by "Sprint did not cooperate with NSA."

I searched around and found a list of Sprint's major (land) competitors: AT&T, BellSouth, Verizon and Qwest.

Does anyone have information on how Sprint and/or MCI fits into this whole mess?
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:13 AM
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1. Good question - I want to drop Verizon asap. but Qwest is out

west, right?
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:19 AM
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3. Yes...
I believe Quest is out west. I have Vonage right now. You have to have a cable modem to run it. It costs half of what verizon charges. It is tied to the internet so I don't know if it is any safer. At this point I am suspicious of everything!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:29 AM
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8. No, I did read it - can't find link - that Internet phone providers are
not going to be REQUIRED to cooperate with Herr govt until next year.

That's a good point for those of us who have a Cable Modem and not on the West Coast.

Yes, Vontage it is!
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:15 AM
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2. my mother has sprint
Just so ya know there customer service is not the best.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:34 AM
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9. You got that right ...
The rep I talked with a few weeks ago identified himself as "Jay."

Behaving like smart ass that I (too) often am, I asked, "So Jay, How's the weather in New Delhi?" :rofl:

* Jay was very fluent in English WITH a strong Indian accent. :P
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:38 AM
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11. Last time I looked
up there customer service rating it was bad so it is not just my mother. I had them for long distance. They shut my LD off for $13.00 I didn't even know they thought I owed them...as it turned out I didn't they screwed up. My moms LD bill is always a wrong and she gets a bit worked up...they just blow her off all the time ..I have to call 3 or 4 x get trans ferd around to get it fixed ..I can't say it always gets fixed either.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:20 AM
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4. I called Sprint yesterday to find out who handles their long
distance for the cell service. I was on the phone for almost a half hour, and no one there could tell me if they use their own capabilities or another service. I no longer have a land line and depend on my cell all the time. Yesterday's non-answer didn't leave me with a very comfy feeling.

I posted a question right after I got off the phone yesterday and the answers (while totally believable) left me more concerned than ever. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1155788&mesg_id=1155788
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:26 AM
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6. Right -- but we're seeking different things
I want to know if Sprint owns their own land-lines (T1s, I believe) or if they connect into another network down the pipe.

For instance, my husband's business uses a local company for IT connectivity. If there is an outage, he calls the local company and is put on hold while they call MCI (the company that owns the larger pipes) and then they are put on hold as MCI calls AT&T (the company that owns the largest pipes). Think of it like a tree... I want to know who's trunk I'm plugged into.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:45 AM
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12. my thoughts are probably one of the three who fessed up
glad I don't use much long distance. My du presence makes me worry sometimes thou', haven't been too kind to the powers to be.
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:22 AM
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5. Sprint
I know for a fact Sprint did not cooperate with the NSA. (Let's just say I have "inside" information.) :-)
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:28 AM
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7. Why is Sprint listed, as one cooperating?
The Nation -- Two months after the New York Times revealed that the Bush Administration ordered the National Security Agency to conduct warrantless surveillance of American citizens, only three corporations--AT&T, Sprint and MCI--have been identified by the media as cooperating. If the reports in the Times and other newspapers are true, these companies have allowed the NSA to intercept thousands of telephone calls, fax messages and e-mails without warrants from a special oversight court established by Congress under the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Some companies, according to the same reports, have given the NSA a direct hookup to their huge databases of communications records. The NSA, using the same supercomputers that analyze foreign communications, sifts through this data for key words and phrases that could indicate communication to or from suspected terrorists or terrorist sympathizers and then tracks those individuals and their ever-widening circle of associates. "This is the US version of Echelon," says Albert Gidari, a prominent telecommunications attorney in Seattle, referring to a massive eavesdropping program run by the NSA and its English-speaking counterparts that created a huge controversy in Europe in the late 1990s.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060511/cm_thenation/20060320shorrock
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 08:34 AM
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10. Incorrect report:
Just look at this line:

"If the reports in the Times and other newspapers are true,"

No mention of Verizon in there either.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:05 AM
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13. FOUND ANSWER -- well, actually, a non-answer
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:06 AM by CornField
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/nation/14563719.htm

And what about Sprint Nextel?

The company with operations headquarters in Overland Park declined to say Thursday whether it had been approached by the NSA or provided any records. Spokesman David Gunasegaram said the company is “dedicated to protecting the privacy of our customers.”

Gary Forsee, Sprint’s president and chief executive officer, was a senior executive with BellSouth Corp. Gunasegaram had no comment when asked whether Forsee played any role in records BellSouth might have given the NSA.


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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:50 PM
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14. Sprint non answer
This non answer is what they give when they dont want to say that they shared the info with NSA.

I called the nice Sprint Customer Service rep and asked if they had cooperated with NSA or not. She seemed a little puzzled. She had heard that telcos shared info about suspected terrorists but had not heard that they had shared info about everyone! Mine was the first call she had received on the subject. She escalated the call but the superior had no answer either. She referred me to the web site (which says nothing about it).

I suspect they are all cooperating. May as well stick with verizon...
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