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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:51 AM
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ISS for having a condom? Only in Texas...
So far this is only talk around my high school campus (Billy Ryan High School), but it would not surprise me in the least the way our school is run. Apparently, a student got a condom from a friend at school because he was out and did not want to be unprepared for his date that night. Someone oversaw it, ratted on the kids. The kid who got the condom was then questioned and searched by our administrators. When the condom was found, he was SUSPENDED for having it. The administration said that they were not allowed on campus. Boy, go from Bush outlawing the teaching of safe sex and the distribution of condoms to not even allowed having them on campus!!! This is really an outrage. Probably a right-wing push.

Once again I cannot verify this story at this time, but it is the word going around campus.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:54 AM
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1. Freeper logic
We are really living in 1984... Hope this is just a rumor.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:55 AM
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2. Hi, Dragonbreathp9d.
I'm in TX and your story is disturbing. I hope the student in question has great parents who buy him a gross of condoms, and to hell with that school admin! Yes, the worst part of this prez is that everything he ever thought about 'fixing' has turned to crap! :grr:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:55 AM
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3. Tip some newspaper, suggest they interview the student and/or family. -nt
AND -- never post anything here that could be used as a clue to determine your true identity.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:58 AM
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4. thanks for the tip
but it wouldnt surprise me if they knew me already. I'm already blacklisted for sending an e-mail to our new principal telling him he is a facist and that I would start a walkout and get the media involved if things kept going they way they started out. I've gotten a few things changed, and to tell the truth I think they are scared of me, they seem very reluctant to punish me for anything. I also exposed that they blocked democratic websites (including algore.com and others) and not republican ones and got that lifted fairly quickly.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:59 AM
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5. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.... lawsuit!
Could the school legally confiscate other preventative medical items from students? Insulin, asthma inhalers, etc.

Unless it is a weapon or illegal drugs, the school has no direct interest and therefore no legal right to legislate what a student has in their pockets.

Is there a written policy warning students not to bring condoms?
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:03 AM
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6. I havent looked lately
but I do not recall it in any of the handbooks. Of course it sould fall under a dreaded "catch-all" category. We have some rules that just say something like "anything not covered can be by adminstrator discretion"
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:05 AM
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7. I agree with the School.
I mean, if you stretch one of those damn things like a rubber band
and shoot it, you could put someone's eye out.
..On the other hand, they do make great "Water Balloons"
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:09 AM
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8. OHFERCRYINGOUTLOUD! I guess they would prefer a pregnancy
of a high schooler? Or, perhaps, STD? Geezus. What kind of logic is this? Now kids will have to be creative.... Hide the condom in their shoes? Outside the school under a bush? This is crazy! and DANGEROUS!
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:13 AM
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9. I completely agree. A poll was done last year of how many girls
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:14 AM by Dragonbreathp9d
were pregnant. In a school of almost 2000, 31 were pregnant at that time.

(this of course was done unofficially, not a school related action)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:18 AM
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12. I actually used to SELL condoms out of my dorm room in High School
I'd charge them on my mom's pharmacy account, and mark-up the price about 200%.

I also sold Jolt Cola as well.


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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:35 AM
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15. LOL...good for you!
I plan on giving my son and ENDLESS supply of them. I'm not stupid. I was a teenager once.;)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:14 AM
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10. Technically, aren't condoms considered a pharmaceutical product?
If Kids can't share or even bring things like Tylenol in many high schools, why should condoms be any different?

Are they considered a pharmaceutical product like Tylenol, or a hygienic product like a tampon?

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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:16 AM
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11. Not sure, but we actually are allowed to bring over the counter drugs
without any authorization and they arent strict on perscribed drugs either. You arent supposed to share but I have borrowed advil infront of administrators before and they dont do anything about that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:25 AM
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13. It sounds like they're applying the rules unevenly and unfairly
Now, if I were the administration, and I wanted to nail someone for giving out condoms, I would make the case (if I could) that it wasn't the condom itself I was objecting to, but the spermicide on the condom.

That is, if it actually as a spermicidal condom.

Spermicide is a "medication" and would be subject to the ban on OTC Meds (I would argue).

Now, if that were true, this MIGHT get them off the hook just this once.

But going forward, the policy would need to be clarified. And it looks like the rules are being selectively, unequally and unfairly applied.

Also, schools have broad leeway to confiscate things and curtail activities that they deem "disruptive."

The administration could argue that a student taking an Advil probably wouldn't be disruptive. However, a student using a condom to have sex in the locker room would be disruptive. Not that having a condom means you intend to actually use it within the confines of the school.




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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:33 AM
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14. Balloons aren't expensive to rent
And I'm sure your local Planned Parenthood would be willing to get in a bunch of condums, for an airdrop on campus:evilgrin:

Geez, how fucking ridiculous. So I suppose they want that drop out rate to soar due to unplanned teenage pregnancies:crazy:
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