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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:14 AM
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Poll question: A Vaccination That STOPS Aging & Prolongs Avg. Lifespan to 500 Years?
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:15 AM by Yollam
Let's say such a thing were possible. On the assumption that present population and environmental problems continue to go unchecked, would you support development and legal distribution of such a shot?













I asked this because a poster recently remarked to me that he thought that within our lifetimes there would be such drugs or genetic modifications available. Personally I doubt it, and if they did exist they would probably be exorbitantly expensive...

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:16 AM
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1. Sure. I'll Take It.
Could always off myself after 200 or so years if I felt the need or got too bored, but at least I'd have the choice to keep on goin.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:21 AM
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2. You left out " Only if the fundies can get raptured first"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:55 AM
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17. I was thinking exactly that. Because, after all
they wouldn't be allowed to take such a shot, would they? It would unnaturally prolong their life and therefore it would take longer than it should for them to get to heaven.

So, naturally, no fundies would take it. It would be hypocritical of them.

And we know that they aren't hypocrites....

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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:21 AM
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3. I had to put "I don't know"
Death is the great unknown, isn't it. And to a lot of us, it's terrifying. I don't wanna, but I know if such a thing existed, it would make the overall quality of life much worse. If only a few had it, it would be a grave injustice to the majority. I don't know how to answer the question, but if it were offered, and I knew it worked, I would probably take it.

:shrug:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:22 AM
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4. "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow"
Edited on Fri May-12-06 11:06 AM by redwitch
A great short story about such a future. I forget who wrote it. Concerns a future where 5 or 6 generations live in the same cramped skyscraper apartment. The family is waiting for "Gramps" to die so the next generation can have some privacy. Couple has been married for decades and their bed is in a hallway. Read it if you can find it. I had a collection of short stories called "Eco-fiction" and it was in that. 500 years? I don't think so. Not for moi. :-)
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:25 AM
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6. I'm pretty sure it's by Vonnegut.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:28 AM
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7. I think that was a Vonnegut short story. n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:31 AM
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9. I would put in the sci fi novels of Iain Banks
In that very distant future, people can pretty much live for a thousand, short of accident, and indeed it's possible to clone oneself for a spare body to guard against that. That universe had practically infinite resources. But checking out from suicide is common, as is simply going cryogenic and waking up in another era. It's mostly the feeling that everything's been done.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:24 AM
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5. Damn. Too late. nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:31 AM
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8. There would have to be massive laws on who can have kids and when
which would probably stick in the craws of many throats. Then again, I am sure technology such as this would never get into the hands of your everyday person.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:35 AM
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10. only with mandatory controception
and i just don't think that would fly :shrug:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:38 AM
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11. Sorry, I had to vote with the right to (extended) lifers...
I still have many things to do and it's going to
take at least 500 years to clean up *'s mess.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:39 AM
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12. Sure, why not?
I'm not going to spawn any more kids, so what's the deal?

Any negative thoughts smacks of "Hurry up and DIE, Old Man, so's I can have your JOB!" and I get plenty of that already.
Yeah, I'm probably being selfish, but I don't give a fuck. it's pretty damn unfair, IMO, to spend your whole life slaving and knocking your nuts together just so you can enjoy a year or 2 of boredom before you croak.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:43 AM
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14. exactly! eom
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:42 AM
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13. Interesting question.
Is no one considering that over-population would not necessarily be a consquence of a 500-year life span?

A longer life-span could very well lead to greater wisdom and a better organized society with more efficient use of natural resouces.

Other organisms with very long life-spans do not over reproduce. It doesn't automatically follow that humans would.

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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:51 AM
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15. Only if it causes immediate and irreversible . . .
. . . sterilization.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:54 AM
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16. we all have to die and leave room for our grandchildren, otherwise
the world would be in such a mess that there would be no room to move.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:04 AM
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18. Absolutely NOT!
Unless they could ASSURE that you would remain healthy and of sound mind.

My husband & I have been caring for his mother in our home for 7 years now. She has Alzheimer's and to say there's not there... there IS NOT an understatement. I can't tell you the number of times I've said, PUULLLEEEZZEE don't EVER let me live long enough to have to live like she does. It's so unfair. And I'm not talking about our care-giving. We can do that and have been doing it. The problem is, she has NO quality of life! She is not aware of what is going on. We do get her up each day and make sure she gets some exercise so her organs won't shut down or that she won't get bed sores, as each day goes by it's harder and harder to make her understand what we are asking of her. She is completely dependent upon us, she can doe NOTHING for herself without our help. Oh she may start to say something, but stops halfway through because she forgets what she wants to say. We just finish the sentence for her and all is well. She no longer feels much pain on any level, she has no idea of when she has to use the bathroom, she doesn't know she's supposed to eat, mainly she tells us, no it's not time or that she's not hungry. Some days my husband is her husband or her brother or a friend. Some days I'm her sister or somebody she doesn't even know. Some days she thinks I should leave because I don't live here. It's all over the place.

But there's also this point... her husband retired from the military, she has Tricare for Life and pays NOTHING for health care. I'm happy about that, but she also receives a Social Security check each month, which is helpful with her care.... but here's the point. I can't say she's in a vegetative state, but what state is she in?? We take very good care of her, we've had doctors tell us this all the time, but is it a waste of money to have the government pay this way. I'm sure only one of millions of people who are living the same way. Recently she had to visit the hospital and spent the night, they sent home health care out and one of the women who has a green card came to see her. She was talking about this and she said to me, one of the reasons I don't give up my citizenship in the Netherlands is because they believe in Euthanasia. She said she would NEVER want to live like my mother-in-law does. I realize my mother-in-law isn't aware of how she's living, but I would bet dollars to donuts, if she were aware... she would want to pull the plug. I KNOW I would! She's alive, she breathes... but what is the quality here??? We can't interact with her in any way, she just sits and I can't fathom what she may be thinking, she has to be watched all the time in case she gets any bright ideas about getting up and going somewhere. She can't stand by herself, so she'll fall on her face. Communicating with her is almost nil!
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:15 AM
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19. I did say "STOPS Aging"
The fact that the treatment would keep you in good health is implied.


Of course, few people would want to spend 500 years bedridden.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:50 PM
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20. Okay... Guess I Wanted To Vent A Little...
Having just had this discussion with someone else, I suppose my mind was still back there.

But, again I vote not... I've seen just about enough in 6 years to last me a lifetime! Even IF we get some GOOD news, there will surely be some bad again. Plus, my son is presently addicted to Meth and we have been dealing with that for almost 2 years now. My mother-in-law is EASY compared to this glitch in my life!! I'm NOT going there, it's much too horrible!

Still, I tend to believe in re-incarnation to some extent so maybe I'll be back to start all over!

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