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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:12 AM
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Why do Republicans HATE Democrats so much?
Democrats believe in...

-giving people a hand up, not a hand out, by increasing minimum wage.
-working to make sure that the poorest amongst us are treated just as well as the richest.
-using taxes to help Americans in need, again, not as a handout.
-reducing abortions by teaching our children to be responsible.
-fighting for the civil rights of all Americans (any race, gay, female, religion, etc...).
-using diplomacy first.
-keeping religion safe by keeping it out of government.
-a safe and healthy environment.

If you like, feel free to add others.

You may not agree with all of these, but you certainly have to agree that none of these ideas are a reason to be hated.




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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:14 AM
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1. Why do we hate ourselves so much. That's what I wanna know.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:15 AM
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2. We refuse to be selfish assholes like them.
That pisses them off.

And they don't think we really believe in all that charitableness, either -- they think we just want to feel morally superior. They think that deep down, everyone is selfish. They can't believe it's not true.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:15 AM
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3. Because we make their me me me ideals look bad. They
don't have any other.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:19 AM
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4. Your talking about rationality
The hatred expressed by an Ann Coulter or her followers is not subject to reason.

In their world view their program of giving to the rich and screwing the poor and blowing up brown people is so correct and right that our opposition to it is more than an honest disagreement. We are out and out traitors for not supporting their BS. Therefore any accusation is acceptable. It's a stage most ideologues get to sooner or later. People aren't accepting the clear and obvious truth, therefore they are either stupid, crazy or evil.

Ann Coulter is a particularly ugly version of this maledy though.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:22 AM
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5. Simple:
Edited on Fri May-12-06 11:32 AM by reichstag911
...they're jealous. We're smarter, more socially conscious, better-looking and better in bed. We can't generally match 'em on money -- at least, the greedhead wing of the Repuke party, rather than the beer-swillin', welfare-collectin', racist, xenophobic, Rapture-spoutin', trailer trash wing -- and it kills them that they're such unevolved life forms.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:26 AM
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8. Thank you for disproving that there's hatefulness on our side
I'm being sarcastic of course. Your words are ugly, untrue, elitist, snotty, and uncivilized--exactly the opposite of what the original poster was saying Democrats believe in.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:32 AM
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15. You want cuddly,...
...get yourself a puppy. I'm sick of living in a country whose government has been hijacked with the complicity of people who are too complacently ignorant to even know what they're voting for. And do they attempt to remedy their ignorance? No, they wallow in their faith-based political delusions. After all, it's easier to watch American Idol and fantasize that their Dear Leader is the kid of guy who'd have a beer with 'em than it is to educate their bone-stupid, couch-resident asses.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:32 AM
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17. I was laughing because many of those things are what they say about us!
Lazy welfare collecting especially. The GOP people take things very seriously, they tend to be a humorless bunch. Type A driven folks, Dems are more fun, but that may be (probably is) a personal prejudice on my part.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:35 AM
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18. So...
...because they project their inadequacies onto Dems, that means we can't point out the absurdity of their faith-based voting?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:45 AM
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19. Projection! Ah, I see where you're coming from now!
They are petty, inadequate, spiteful, jealous, and scheming and so they project it onto us and so they see us as petty, inadequate, spiteful, jealous, and scheming, but really they are the ones who are really petty, inadequate, spiteful, jealous, and scheming and we can see those traits in them, and that's not projection on our part because we are the right ones and they are the wrong ones. It's all so simple. And besides, we're rubber and they're glue and everything they say bounces off of us and sticks to their crew.

Simple, indeed.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:46 AM
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20. You are preaching to the choir on the majority of your massage.
The point is we have to remember that when all is said and done, they are our fellow citizens and it is to our benefit to to limit the name calling and innuendo, even though there are so many obvious targets of opportunity. We can't afford to allow Mr. Rove's politics of division continue to tear this Country apart.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:59 AM
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23. The country is already torn.
The solution is to educate the ignorant, but they don't want to be educated. What then? I feel little fellowship toward those who have gotten the country into this sorry state, nor should you. The Repubs have explicitly declared war on Dems and our historically and socially progressive policies, and we're supposed to feel sympathy/fellowship/kinship? It's time we stopped mollycoddling the ignoramuses, and trying to understand their positions, and declared war right back. We outnumber them, but the greedhead corporate sponsors of this administration control the media, so very little genuine political truth ever seeps through.

It's not even the ignorance so much as it is the complacency with which they stew in their own ignorance. Besides, the backwash Bush supporters have made clear that they don't mind a dictatorship, so let them live under one controlled by Dems, their opinions utterly marginalized, controlled by Dems. (Naturally, I do not advocate dictatorship by anyone, but I absolutely believe in marginalizing the corporate interests and the demonstrably ignorant/racist/xenophobic Repub sheep.)
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:02 PM
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27. I'm right there with you pal !!
Its war for me... Fuck the Rethugs... I will never forgive them, they are not my brothers !!!

If I could have it my way, I'd split this country in two!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:01 PM
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29. *Sigh* Either you don't talk to people like this face to face, or you have
very few friends with a narrow, homogeneous outlook on life. Go bone up on your Montesquieu, Rousseau, and Locke, and then come back and tell me the advantages of splitting the country in two--as if that's even a useful starting point for a conversation.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:07 PM
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30. Advice for Riechstag: Put down the Nietzsche, pick up some Montesquieu
Edited on Fri May-12-06 04:08 PM by Bucky
When you take over the country with 50.1% of the vote I'll look forward to how efficiently you run your re-education camps. In the meantime, you might want to exercise your woefully atrophied civility muscles.

(on edit): a shot of Dale Carnegie wouldn't hurt you, either
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:23 AM
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6. Because we stand between them and one-party rule. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:25 AM
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7. They've been pushing hate because it works
We tend to hate policies, especially GOP policies that hurt people, and they all seem to.

They hate US. It's shorthand for limited minds.

Some of them are absolutely twisted tight with fury against "liberals." They have absolutely no idea why, they've just been given permission to hate.

Horrors like Rwanda happened with far less provocation. If we are ever to gain power again, the first order of business has to be to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine and have it apply to all broadcast material: radio, TV AND CABLE. We have got to find out how to neutralize the hate campaign before it wrecks this country completely.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:32 AM
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16. well said
They're being acculturated into the habit of hatred. It's a self-feeding habit. As a species we have a built in need to despise and distrust the "other," the tribe from the far side of the river who might compete with us for territory one day. It's as strong a drive as the human desire to love and cooperate with your neighbors. The Limbaughs and Roves of the world play on that drive, twist it until they see their way of life is under attack by gays, liberals, anti-Nativity Scene crusaders (so to speak), swarthy terrorists and their ACLU enablers, and all the other witch scare bugbears used to keep the people in line and quivering.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:01 PM
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25. Hatred of a common target helps party unity. And remember, this
party (Rethugs, I mean) is full of people with confused, uncomfortable emotions. It helps the party to use those emotions and project hatred onto an outside group. AND, when people (Rethug rank-and-filers, anyway) are busy hating, they don't question the Rethug party line.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 06:11 PM
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36. They push hate because
it divides us. This is a spin on the old divide and conquer theme. They pit us against us because it is easier to keep their power. Why this illegal alien theme now (esp since Bush at one time increased the level of Hispanic GOP), the Social Security reform was nothing more than an effort to split us one generation against the other (boomer against gen x) and thank GOD the elderly who would not have been touch, spoke out against it so strongly. I could go on but you can see the pattern. My fav line from Braveheart is 'you are so busy arguing over the scraps from Longshanks table that you over look your GOD given right to be free.' We seem to have forgotten that Gov. works for US.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:27 AM
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9. That's easy to answer, Neocons/fundies hate Democrats because.............
....Democrats/Liberals can't be easily bullied into following and repeating whatever party spew they dream up to make even more money or gain more power over. That's it in a nutshell.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:28 AM
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10. They truly believe we want to tax them to death and give the $ to
lazy people. There it is.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:28 AM
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11. Because we have souls that are not for sale.
They hate us because they can never, ever be us. No matter how hard they try, how much money they steal or how much power they hoard; they can never be us. Their souls have price tags on them, ours are priceless...
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:29 AM
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12. It's not that they hate us.They use hatred as a means of winning elections
Hatred is just a tool that makes for divisiveness, so they make believe they hate us more than they really actually do hate us I think.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:29 AM
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13. They go by a philosophy and a lie
Edited on Fri May-12-06 11:31 AM by Selteri
They seem to believe that anyone who doesn't agree with them is against them completely by default.

They also seem to think that the poor deserve to be poor for not being rich. I've heard from more than one Republican that our Public schools are a waste of time and resources and that the 'poor' kids are ineducable.

The lie is simple - That with trickle down economics where the rick keep more money than in any other world and where the middle and lower taxes hold up most of the tax burden that they will somehow become part of the rich - Under the REpublicans though the American Dream has been- for the past 25 years - Someone else's dream.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:29 AM
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14. Because they are trained to be selfish, bigoted louts.
They see anything that someone else has, as having been TAKEN from them, or becoming unavailable TO them.

They are like toddlers, they do not like to share and want everything for just them.

Their philosophy demands that every "unkind" thing they say or do, be rationalized as a "lesson" for the target of the act.

Others are seen as beneath them, and deserve the misfortunes dealt them.

They are elitist class-warriors, who believe that the ends justify the means.

they are selfish
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:48 AM
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21. because Republicans are programmed to believe in Welfare Queens
They are 100% convinced that Democrats give out billions to "lazy" people who live the high life.

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:58 AM
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22. Revenge for the 60's. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:01 PM
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24. There is something in human nature that can be exploited.
The need to blame others for your problems. This boosts a (low-ego) person's self-esteem - to be able to blame their problems on somebody else. People with no source of pride in their lives have a need to feel superior. People like Limbaugh feed into this need just like Goebbels and the nazis did. "It's somebody else's fault! You are morally and intellectually superior to those others!"

Pure hate mongering to exploit the gullible. They need to hate us because it is the only thing that gives them self-esteem.
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:02 PM
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26. Hate is their nature
Genetically linked, in them, with greed and lying.

I never felt this way before BushCo, not even in the Reagan years; but now, from the pure evil I've seen them exhibit, they may be unredeemable.

IMO of course...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:15 PM
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28. I think Warpy's right: "they've just been given permission to hate." I
Stirring up hatred has been a tactic of powermongers forever. But just in recent history: hatred of Negroes--the ugliest bigotry we have ever seen in this country, deliberately stirred up by demagogues, as recently as George Bush I; hatred of 'communists,' leftists and unionists, during the McCarthy era (quite comparable to rightwing hatred of 'liberals' today--similar in its use of fear); hatred against Catholics, residue of 500 years of European religious wars (I saw it in action, in the JFK election in 1960); hatred against Jews, beyond any conceivable motive, aimed at extermination by the Nazis (but present throughout European/American society for centuries); currently, hatred of Arabs/Muslims, and most recently, hatred of brown-skinned immigrants.

Most of these are racial/religious hatreds, but the template is the same for Bushite hatred of "liberals." It is the lowest of the low appeals to gut level emotions that are entirely irrational--and are always manipulated by someone who wants to pick your pocket. "We" belong, you don't. "We" are pure, you are icky. "We" are virtuous, you are sinful. "We" are powerful, you are nothing. "We" rule, you bow down or die. The "we" can be anything--white skin, money, property, possessing a penis, having monarchical DNA, one form of religion or another, cardinal's robes or Puritan black, blond "power girls," where you live, what country you come from and how long you've been here, your political beliefs, your MBA from Yale, Harvard or Stanford. Name your bigotry. It all works on the same principle of those who "belong" hating those who don't. And fascists know this and use it.

We have not seen this kind of political hatred since the McCarthy era. McCarthyism was effective in purging the unions and the Democratic Party of socialist elements. But it was brought to a halt by people of conscience before it went too far. The Communist revolutions in Russia and China were damn scary to predatory Capitalists--huge populations of workers seizing the means of production and all that. So they needed to demonize those revolutions and cleanse the U.S. working population of any such ideas. They also had the "carrot" of post-WW II prosperity in the U.S.--and essentially made a "social contract" with U.S. labor: 'we'll give you some of the goodies if you don't revolt.' This latter--the "social contract" prosperity--made it possible to end the McCarthyite pogrom. (--a "social contract" that has now been broken by the rich and by traitorous global corporate predators.)

And there is another precedent for political hatred, in living memory, before the McCarthy era: the FDR era. The "have's"--who had destroyed the country with the crash of '29--spewed this same kind of venom at FDR and the "New Dealers." It was ugly; it was gut level poison. But neither they nor the McCarthites had Diebold and ES&S to make it seem inevitable--to create delusions of consent, of majority acquiescence to political hatred. That is new. And damned scary.

The corporate news organizations were pretty bad, back then--during the New Deal and the McCarthy era. So that hasn't changed much--except for news MONOPOLIES. We have never seen anything like this control over news and opinion by a few billionaire CEOs, who own all the news outlets. There was always healthy upstart competition--four and five major newspapers per city, for instance.

Election rigging on a truly massive scale (one hacker, a couple of minutes, able to change millions of votes, without leaving a trace) is quite new. Most Americans don't hate anybody. And in fact most Americans are liberal. Read the issue polls over the last several years. You'll be amazed. But we are suffering under the corporate news monopoly/Diebold/ES&S delusion that, somehow, Americans support this fascist Bushite program. People feel alone and disempowered. In reality, what they are is DISENFRANCHISED, but most don't know this (or don't know the details of it). So the corporate news monopolies work in concert with the Bushite-controlled corporate voting machines companies to create an illusionary "market' for hatred of "liberals."

I think it's well thought-out. Probably one of rightwing billionaire Howard Ahmanson's fascist 'think tank' ideas. (Ahmanson--initial funder of ES&S, the voting machine corporation, brethren to Diebold.)

And with their tinpot fascist dictator in the White House, and his "pod people" in Congress, and lots and lots of money to be made, they have UNLEASHED the likes of Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh upon us, and have GIVEN THEM PERMISSION to spew hatred, and poison, and anathema upon the American peoples' liberal heads. The PURPOSE is to make us feel alone, isolated and disempowered. It is not reality. It is in fact brainwashing.

Ordinary Republicans are not full of hatred. But they are like the members of a church congregation with a rabid, Puritan, powermongering preacher. Everybody's afraid to speak up; they are afraid to be accused (--of sinfulness, or whatever). So they let this nut go on and on--damning the "whores of Babylon" or whoever or whatever he's using to mesmerize and frighten people.

And ordinary Americans are neither "conservative," nor fascist, nor hate-filled, nor warmongers. They want fairness, justice and peace. They want good government (i.e., "liberal" government). They want a fair shake for everyone. And it is the tragedy--and the challenge--of our era, that their faith--our faith--in the "social contract" has been destroyed by the hoodlums in the White House and their corporate predator cabal, with, unfortunately, the collusion of too many Democratic leaders. (WHERE was/is their outcry over Diebold/ES&S secret vote counting? I'm still waiting.)

If you want your country back, if you want to reclaim the sovereign power of the people to bust up these news and other corporate monopolies, if you want the war to end, and the hate spewers to shut up, you will join with others to...

THROW DIEBOLD AND ES&S ELECTION THEFT MACHINES INTO 'BOSTON HARBOR' NOW!

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:09 PM
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31. Dunno...I sure know
why I hate repukes.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 04:11 PM
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32. They hate us for our freedom
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 05:30 PM
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33. Most of 'em don't
any more than the majority of Democrats hate Republicans. Of the ones who do hate us, well, some hate us because they're hateful people who need an enemy and they don't really have the Commies to hate anymore. Some hate us because they buy stereotypes about "lib'ruls" hook, line and sinker (just as some of us buy into stereotypes of "redneck repukes"). Some hate us because they think we're actually undermining the morals and values that they think are the foundation of this country's strengths. Some hate us because we are different from them.

There are as many reasons as there are individuals.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 05:52 PM
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34. Why do Democrats hate Republicans so much?
One that I've come to learn is that both parties have their fair share of hatred.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 05:54 PM
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35. Because our pretzeldent is a uniter, a decider. He decides what you think.
You're either with him or against him. He's basically an Asshole.
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