"I don't care if they tap me,I got nothing to hide". How do you respond?

It is a slippery slope.

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more...
http://tapthis.cf.huffingtonpost.com

n/t

Or if it's online, I ask them to post their home address.

of a bus.

family member about something personal, it's nobody's business. It's turning into a huge big brother situation - what happens if those records get into improper hands? Health Care providers, Criminal Justice systems, other insurance companies......it's a rabbit hole that should never be entered...

so you can take a good look through it. See how they feel about that.

Remind them that if legitimate terrorist suspects living in the US (both of them :sarcasm:) call their phone number by mistake, they will be put on the "suspicious" list for a wrong number. And they won't be removed from that list once they're on it, because they have no way to challenge the data even if they were allowed to see it. When was the last time you got a wrong number?

with the web of contacts "they" could call the local diner (to check on the daily specials), you elderly aunt's best friend could also call that diner to check the daily specials then call your aunt every day, your mother calls your aunt to check on her frequently and you call your mom ... ah the beauty of webs ... you don't know the target person (and don't even know the "diner" exists) yet you are part of that communication web.

I still think the best response is President Hillary Clinton could really use that power (as pointed out in an earlier thread)http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1166798

edit to add link

Up on Glenn Greenwald's blog today: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/

He talks about why the polling saying that most people support surveillance are flawed.

because if they do, you're connected.

If you and a terrorist both call the same pizza place for a pie... you are screwed.

The "I have nothing to hide" challenge doesn't deserve any more response than that.

That usually shuts them up.

Someone posted this yesterday...
This is great!! Sorry I didnt bookmark the thread.

You consider yourself a good American. You consider yourself a patriot.
You support the president* , and believe he is helping to keep you and your family safe by fighting the terrorists.
The president* says he needs to tap your phone and gather your personal information to fight the war on terror.
You think you have have nothing to hide.

*You go to the Right church,

*You never criticize the government

*You pay your taxes

*You always vote The Right Way

*You "Support the Troops"

*You NEVER talk to terrorists on the phone

*You believe that the President is above the Law

All-in-All, you consider yourself to be "A Good American". You have nothing to hide, and the government is welcome to read your mail, listen to your phone conversations, and keep a secret file on you.


Have you ever wondered how things get in your secret file?
The government now has an incredible capacity for collecting and cross indexing vast amounts of data on individuals. Most of this data is unverified and simply gets put in the file.
You will NEVER see the file.
You will NEVER have the opportunity to correct the file.
You will NEVER know what is in the file.


You may be in control of your life, but what about the things you can't control?

*What about your wacky uncle who attends protests? He has the same last name as you!
Simply having the same last name got people removed from the voting rolls in Florida in 2000.

*You have a bad sheep kid who got in trouble in school? Nothing serious, boys will be boys?
How will that be written up in YOUR file?

*What about your niece who had an abortion? You didn't even know about it.
YOU vote Pro-Life, but your niece's abortion can turn up in YOUR file.

*Remember that time you accidentally got stopped for speeding , and you were a little sharp with the officer?
That's going to look good in YOUR file.

*You know that "Fringe Hippie Liberal" that lives down the block?
Do you know that he filed a report on you that states that you have a Che poster in your garage, and that you secretly collect money to fund Leftist groups in South America.
Sure its not true, but it DOES go in YOUR file.

and YOU won't be able to do a thing about it....in fact, you won't even know about it!
ALL you will know is that LIFE will be harder for YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!

*Your son or daughter didn't get that scholarship?

*Your son or daughter wasn't admitted to that school?

*You are denied that research grant?

*You were refused a zoning permit?

*Your company was refused a government contract?

*You were repeatedly audited by the IRS?

*You were passed over for that promotion?

* You were refused the loan for the new house in that exclusive neighborhood?

*The HardDrive from your computer disappears one afternoon?

*You LOST a lawsuit that was a sure win?

*You are denied travel on an airline?

*You are denied accommodations when traveling?

*You were temporarily arrested for walking too close to a Security Zone.

These things AND MORE can happen when a Political Party controls the governmental database!!!!



A centralized governmental database will be ETERNALLY HUNGRY. It will GROW automatically. Those whose lives are about feeding the monster will AUTOMATICALLY find MORE to feed it. Your Party affiliation, your campaign contributions, your religious preference, your favorite TV shows, your medical records, the mistakes other people make, the lies other people tell,....AND MORE WILL find its way into this database....AND a ONE PARTY government WILL USE IT to make sure that only the right kind of people do well in America!!!


Are you a GOOD American?
Do you REALLY have no problem with the government spying on you?
Do you REALLY think secret government files on citizens is a GOOD idea?





You think the above won't ever happen here???
You are wrong.
People are already being pulled out of line,
and refused seat on airlines after checking a central database!!!
people are being refused admission to Security Zones based on the secret database!!!
AND it is getting worse.


but you have nothing to hide!!!

I may be filing a secret anonymous report on YOU this afternoon.
It will be filled with LIES,
but YOU won't EVER KNOW!

... on the internet. How do you know they didn't if there is no congressional oversight?

But what if you get some dodgy medical news from a doctor, that you don't want your employer knowing? How would you like Uncle Sam to know that your Viagra prescription is ready? That you tested positive for that STD? That the girlfriend you suddenly found yourself sneaking around with, though you never intended it to go that far...ooops, don't tell the wife, needs a ride to the clinic? How about that illegal bet you made on the football game? How about those nasty comments you made about a public figure??? Would you like them in your PERMANENT FILE?

What's next? Every click of your mouse, every keystroke you make, recorded for all posterity, in a file with your name on it? Your actions, should they one day be deemed politically incorrect, affecting the employment and address of your GRANDCHILDREN?? Off to Siberia, kids!!!

That's what happened in the USSR. Don't think it couldn't happen here.

Or the particulars of your marriage breakup...or the trouble you're having with your kids or spouse...or the fact you or a loved one has just been diagnosed with something fatal...
Or maybe the other side of the coin;
That new boy/girl friend who just sends you...or the sly revenge you got on your evil stupid boss/in-law/whoever has really pissed you off...or you're going absolutely gooey over the cuteness of your new baby or new pet.
Your life won't be treated with dignity, you know.
Think about with how much respect and compassion you view reality TV shows.

Still got 'nothing to hide'?

my FBI background check from the military, my security clearance, my security clearance revocation from when I got busted for pot while in the service, my address file from every time I got a change of address for my driver's licence... You know, the stuff the government has on all of us.

Besides that, I suspect that there are the photos taken at peace rallies, all my very innocuous posts on DU, my occasional Letter to the Editor...

Now, my phone records.

It's not a question of being paranoid. It's a question of being paranoid enough.

Maybe they're looking for your information so they can steal your identity and ruin your credit. Just suppose they charged a $2000 campaign donation to your credit card? This Badministration is getting desperate alot of thier donors are going to jail or just not drinking anymore Kool-Aide.
They're going to need alot of money to keep the majority in congress. Try and think of something too low for this bunch of criminals? There's nothing they wouldn't do to keep Bush from being Impeached, including causing another huge terrorist attack. Maybe that's why they insist on rattling Iran's cage.

me- i think the next step is put a chip in all of us, so we can track where our actual bodies go instead of just our money or our calls. after all, if you have nothing to hide, and it keeps us from getting our ass blown up. anything in the name of protecting us americans.



other- Yes...it entails a detailed log of all phone calls that I have made (not conversations). This tells the government where I was (for cell phones) on an hourly basis every day of my life. Might as well just make it easier and put a chip in. Cuts out the middle man.

I'm so glad that Big Government is here to take care of me.



me- we are doing it to our dogs and cats,..... might as well for people. we know it is safe. and after all there has been proposal to do it to our children, to keep them safe

warm and fuzzy, yes..... that is what i feel. bah hahahahahaha

especially since i have nothing to hide




other- Yep...nothing to hide...so why should I be worried. I propose that the Government visits my house every night to make sure that Al Qaeda isn't lurking about under the bed or in my closet (not that they would be...because I'm not a terrorist....but it would make me feel safer). Perhaps they can tuck me in as well and read me a story. I can no longer depend on myself to contribute to my safety. I am helpless and I am scared. I need Big Government to protect me every hour of every day. I would be lost without Big Government.




me- yes yes yes.... you are soooo smart, and i can take this further, just so we all feel safe. so much further, how fun this would be. but i need a hot shower. freezin my ass off. thanks for playing txdem, you are good at this game

"BIG FUCKING BROTHER!!!"

bush lies and abuses Everything!

this sets a precedent for future governments who might not have their, of their children's, best interests in mind.

Short-sightedness. :nuke:

DemEx

...with out the crummy free 3-generations living together apartment.

www.totalitarianrepublic.com

I love the noise about 'Gold gains on the market".

That's such exciting positive economic news!

IOW, the dollar lost ground against gold....

what's the big deal?

:evilgrin:

:rofl:

I have private conversations with family, friends, Doctors, lawyers, etc that I don't have to hide but feel they are private and are not privy to public disclosure... How would you like every conversation you ever had on the phone release to the public???

:yoiks:

"It's only a phone number"

Please read it at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2621490

Tell 'em that.

if ya know what I mean cell mate

NO ONE has ever been wrongly accused or convicted. Mistakes are never made by the governmenta ... oh wait, that's not true.

Nothing to hide? How boring for you.....

And then I said I wasn't happy living in a place where everything I said or did was monitored, I'm a fully grown free man and deserve to be treated as such....

A great find.

(Now, I'm scared cuz I watched it at work.)

Ask him how he would feel about you copying down his credit card numbers
(including the little extra one on the back of the card).

In these days of identity theft, insider trading and corporate espionage,
even those of us who have done nothing wrong have quite a bit that we need to keep hidden.

""We shall deal with the 4th Amendment, which provides:

'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.'""

---The police proceeded to

""(break) open the door to plaintiff's said home and seized all of his books, letters, money, papers, notes, evidences of indebtedness, stock, certificates, insurance policies, deeds, abstracts, and other muniments of title, bonds, candies, clothes, and other property in said home, and this in violation of 11 and 23 to the Constitution of Missouri, and of the 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States;...""

from http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=232&invol=383

Any search or seizure is considered "reasonable" to this bunch of conservative yo-yos so when confronted with ChoicePoint's list of errant and stolen data combined with the SAIC ID thefts, which included former WMD weapons searcher and Iraq Study Group head David Kay, I might add, no one is secure in information they indavertently 'hand over' to corporations in the first place.

The movie "The Corporation" shows us that corporations act against the public's best interests, so you are guaranteed that real persons (live humans, in other words) are going to get run over in the rush for the almighty dollar. Sorry if those Republican fools get runned over in the process. Just part of doing business. They'll understand.

When he says, "yes- of course I would mind", then squint at him and ask "What are you hiding, Comrade?"

"Can I look under your mattress, can I look at your AOL browser cache? can I look in your medicine cabinet?"

"Fuck no, man!"

"Why? I thot you said you 'didn't have ANYTHING to hide'?"

has been predicated on the "presumption of innocence". Once you reverse that presumption, there is no going back. You are assumed guilty until you can prove you are not. If you don't mind your phones being tapped, then you won't mind your mail being opened, or medical/psych records being examined. Your minister/priest should also be willing to reveal any private discussion you've had, as well as your attorney and your accountant.

We're going to install a little box in your car to check on your driving habits. As long as you don't speed, you have nothing to fear.

We are going to question your children periodically about how you treat them, ask them if you molested them.

We are going to examine your buying habits. How much alcohol do you buy? How much electricity do you use? That much? Maybe you are growing marijuana in your basement and we should drop by and see. After all, if you've nothing to hide, we don't need a warrant. In fact, why don't you leave a key down at the police so we can let ourself in whenever we need to. While you are at it, we need your computer passwords, credit card PINs, and car keys.

We'll need you to drop by our office and provide urine and blood samples. We need to be sure you are not using drugs. You know what? Bring the kids too.

they'd be fine with it if i dug through their underwear drawer?

Sweet :thumbsup:

...and in particular, a sinister regime. And I don't mean criminal behavior.

Privacy means keeping my business secrets, my associations with others, my political organization activities, and many more positive, legal things, SECRET at my choosing.

That's what privacy is all about. Sovereign individuals must be able to hide anything about themselves they choose to hide.

It sounds to me that you think of yourself as a subject, not a citizen. A slave, not a sovereign. And that's a pity."

America and last time I checked we still have a

CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS, AND FREEDOMS THAT MEN DIED TO PROTECT !

to be confidential.

we now find ourselves questioning the principles upon which our democracy was founded. Why?

Bush doesn't believe America is strong enough to protect itself without compromising its values!

Privacy, it's a Constitutional right!

Happy to have your phones tapped? Wonderful! You would have fit right in as a citizen of the old KGB run USSR... funny I thought you hated those "red Commies" and used the government bugging as one of the prime reasons they were so corrupt and why we needed to have a bazillion nukes pointed at them (you know, so that evil corrupt government with the audacity to bug it's own citizens couldn't spread their corruption over here in the good old FREE U.S. of A.). What a FREE country we live in when the government can secretly listen to you chat with your proctologist, your attorney, your financial advisor and your mistress. Might as well make it easy for them and just send them a copy of all the url's of the porn sites you wack off to with a nice note congratulating them on their brilliance for ignoring the law just so they could learn all the most private and personal details about your life. I mean, it's not like you have anything to HIDE, ya know.

Everybody has something they'd rather not have widely known if only for the embarassment factor. Doesn't have to be criminal or immoral. It could be something that others would actually think was silly if known but you still would rather keep it private.

Kinda hard to argue with that.

n/t

because I am not a Jew
When they came for......

:applause:

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Laws were broken and lies were spoken by Bush. Go back the 8th grade and retake your Constitution class. We are either a country based on laws, truth, and accountability or we are a bunch of nosepicking idiots. The exact same slacker mentality you are showing is why there are 12 million illegal immigrants, a huge deficit, high gas prices... The price of freedom is vigilance you simple asshole. Dumb-ass, shit-for-brains like you are costing us our country.

(not aimed at initial poster, BTW)

how about cameras in your house?

at what point do you, hypothetical person, draw the line?

means you don't need the first amendment?

...then you aren't a successful businessman. No successful businessman or woman would want their phone activity logged and collated. If the government is collecting that information, someone else can get a hold of it too, and use it against you. Sorry, but the only people who wouldn't care are complete losers whose greatest dream is to be an extra on American Idol and get voted off the island. Those that secretly long for someone to give a shit what they do.

We all get wrong numbers all of the time. Next thing you know, you'll be on the no-fly list.

If so, he is linked to this unknown person and his/her unknown deeds. Perhaps s/he has plenty to hide and now Mr. "I got nothin' to hide" is connected to him/her in a database. How would Mr. GOP supporter like to have the feds show up at his place of employment to grill him because the wrong person misdialed and got his phone. Think things would ever be the same again with the boss?

Has he ever clicked on a link thinking it went to one kind of site only to find out it went to another? Nobody cares how quickly he closed the window - he's still in the NSA database linked to the kiddy porn. How would life be for him after the suits started poking around asking his friends and neighbors if they've ever seen him acting suspicious with a child? Think his life will ever be quite right after that?

n/t

it only gets worse from here....

However, Bush broke the law. That's the point. So even though I don't really care if someone listened in on me, I DO care that we have a criminal administration running this country.

Whether or not I have anything to hide is irrelevant. What makes this country so great is our heritage, our Constitution and the rights it bestows on the people. Ever heard of the Bill of Rights? Well Bush is stomping all over it. What he's doing is illegal and every American should be outraged."

That's what I've already said, and I'll keep saying it.

they parse words, split hairs, DENY that it is the law. this is what we are facing - ignorance at its finest.

over the phone and who they would like to have that information shared with or possibly even sold too (insurance companies, mortgage companies...).

Anyone who says they have NOTHING to hide is a liar. I assume these people are freepers? Ask them how they would feel if the Dems were spying on their anti-American activities....

nothing there nothing to see but it Pisses me off bigtime that my constitutional rights are being trample upon, not just by anyone but by the dumbest mo'fuker in the world, now that really pisses me off. the buck does stop there after all, whether or not he wants to accept that.

It's not the country that I love. WTF are we spending billions to give liberty to Iraqis, and losing our own in the process? Who was it that said "those that will give up liberty for security, deserve neither" ?? Cuz I want that on a bumper sticker.

9/11 screwed people's heads over, badly. The incessant replaying of the attack footage, the constant drum beating by the Bushies for political gain, the politically motivated "terra alerts" in many colors, all of that.. the Flight93 movie, it's all contributed to people losing their total common sense. They do not realize that the odds of being injured or killed by a terrorist is much less than being struck by lightning... yet they let Bush frighten them into submission. Frankly, the Bush admin is so inherently darkhearted that I have zero doubt that they've discussed using the Flight 93 movie for their own advantage.

People are just not well-read anymore, they exist on a diet of junk Tv and magazines. They have no idea of the slippery slope that we're sliding down right now. Life is a Lifetime Tv movie. The dictators and fascists knew best when they worked the people into a frightened mass, and manipulated them to whatever ends they wished.. usually the pursuit of riches for a select few and the military industrial complex.

that guarantees citizens an explicit RIGHT TO PRIVACY. An "implied" right to privacy is just not enough, as the continuing debate over Roe v. Wade proves. I also would have thought the Fourth Amendment was clear and explicit enough, but apparently it isn't.

to family friends, for any reason other then they "feel" you are a threat.

Hold you in a cell without notification, to your job, your mortgage, your kids? Is that okay?

No lawyer, no one phone call.. all your rights are stripped based on some suspected falsehood? And you'll be forbidden to speak of it to anyone if your not spending the rest of your days in Gitmo.

Perhaps it's something as ridiculous, as making a snide comment about the president, or the war in Iraq, perhaps feeling sorry for the people of Iraq. Your not only labeled a sympathizer, your a traitor to your country for having an opinion that differs from the unpopular 29 percent. (course the detention facilities would be over run by now if that were the case)

This is all being denied due process of law under the Constitution?

What about 800 or so yrs of democratic tradition?


When is crossing the line enough? If your willing to give up your rights to privacy, what about your medical records? what about what your watching on tv? what your eating for dinner? What about adultery? In some states it's still illegal and you can be brought up on charges (you can in the military)

It's called a witch hunt. It's happened in this country before, tell him or her to research their history. (*cough* McCarthy)

Tell them the next time they are willing to sacrifice their rights, Perhaps Russia might receive them.

Here are some snips

November 2005, Business Week reported that the FBI had issued tens of thousands of "National Security Letters" and had obtained one million financial records from the customers of targeted Las Vegas businesses. Selected businesses included casinos, storage warehouses and car rental agencies. An anonymous Justice official claimed that such requests were permitted under section 505 of the USA PATRIOT Act and despite the volume of requests insisted "We are not inclined to ask courts to endorse fishing expeditions".


May 2004, Professor Steve Kurtz of the University at Buffalo reported his wife's death of heart failure. The associate art professor, who works in the biotechnology sector, was using benign bacterial cultures and biological equipment in his work. Police arriving at the scene found the equipment (which had been displayed in museums and galleries throughout Europe and North America) suspicious and notified the FBI . The next day the FBI, Joint Terrorism Task Force, Department of Homeland Security and numerous other law enforcement agencies arrived in HAZMAT gear and cordoned off the block surrounding Kurtz's house, impounding computers, manuscripts, books, and equipment, and detaining Kurtz without charge for 22 hours; the Erie County Health Department condemned the house as a possible "health risk" while the cultures were analyzed. Although it was determined that nothing in the Kurtz's home posed any health or safety risk, the Justice Department sought charges under Section 175 of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act—a law which was expanded by the USA PATRIOT Act.

FBI agents used a USA PATRIOT Act "sneak and peek" search to secretly examine the home of Brandon Mayfield, who was wrongfully jailed for two weeks on suspicion of involvement in the Madrid train bombings. Agents seized three hard drives and ten DNA samples preserved on cotton swabs, and took 335 photos of personal items. Mayfield has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. government, contending that his rights were violated by his arrest and by the investigation against him


So where is the line drawn?

Why does he get to be okay with my constitutional rights as a citizen of this country being violated, he doesn't get to decide that for me.

Wire tapings can be done through FISA within 24 hrs.. this is data mining plain and simple. Like throwing a fishnet out to catch a single bass, you don't need the excess and the act is criminal.

(grumble) You know what i've heard this line before it frustrates me to no end as you can see.

sorry for the rant but I've heard this same argument for the patriot act as well, We are NOT any safer.

They need to stop worrying about intell inside this country, and starting covering the collective ass of the American public with actual security!!!

Port security, border security,(not related to illegals before anyone chews my ass out, just security), what about airport security?

what about making peace instead of pissing off even more arab countries not to mention every other European country with our arrogance and disrespect for countering views.

This country is going to be hit again, not because of the lack of illegal wire tapping, data mining, or a dismantle of the patriot act. It's going to be hit because these guys in office are assholes who've made a wound that's now infected with gangrene.

Those worked out well, didn't they?

someone strip searching you for no reason either?

Guilty until proven innocent-

THAT is the issue-

Just cause you have nothing to hide doesn't mean you don't have the RIGHT to be asked permission to 'see' everything- without some credible reason for taking liberties with your right to privacy- You are being violated.

Plain and simple-

very instant you get scared. You should move to a place where some overblown government can protect you from all the things that frighten you".

Like that.

These people are cowards and / or blindly loyal to their party, not their country.

It applies regardless of our caring one way or the other. Otherwise, when enough people collectively decide a law is wrong, then we (Congress) change it. Until then the law is the law.

IMHO

If the 4th ammendment can be violated at will, which other ammendment is safe? Is any of it safe. It seems to me too many don't seem to care if the president violates the contitution he took an oath to defend.

Exactly how many rounds did you fire last time you were at the range? Are you sure every round you came with was used or left with you? Would it be okay with you if we had you register every round of ammunition you purchased or used? You have nothing to hide right?

Last time you went fishing or hunting what time did you start out? Who went with you? How much did you have to drink?

Have you ever shared prescription meds with somebody else? Not even once? Did you know that was illegal?

Have you ever hired an illegal alien or somebody who probably was an illegal alien? Have you ever used the services of a company that you suspected had illegal alien employees? Did you return to that company more than once?

Nothing to hide my ass.

and
"Tell the cop as he drags you away from your family because someone who was on a list called you."

It's often not easy, quick, or cheap to get your butt out of jail -once in. Especially with the enemy combatant standard now established over years of 'past practice'.

the broadcasting to the world, every private conversation on and off the telephone. Ask them if they would be willing to let the rest of america read their emails, listen and watch their every move in the bedrooms, bathrooms, and let them prove that they don't mind being spyed on by then allowing video and audio recordings of their "private" lives to be broadcast on radio and tv so that the rest of America can see just how innocuous all this really is.

tell those ignorant conservative FREAKS to pick up a history book already

as long as you have nothing to hide, I may as well get personal.

way they can track you 24 hours a day. You shouldn't have a problem with it, that is, as long as you don't have anything to hide!

Paying clse attention to your underwear drawer and under your mattress. I may even look in your sugar bowl.

Oh by the way, don't clean up, you have nothing to hide. Right?

While looking though your underwear drawer, I reserve the right to giggle and hold up your underwear for everyone else to ridicule. Then we will post pictures on the web.

Don't like this? But you have nothing to hide.

"You'd have been right at home in Hussein's Iraq, licking Saddam's greasy ass."

Ollie Harrington, James Baldwin, Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole and Chester Himes, left-wing artists and intellectuals (many of whom were "named" by their friends seeking to avoid blacklisting as communists) who were unwilling to live under the tyranny of McCarthyism in the 50s who went to live and work in Europe.

Back then it required arm twisting and the threat of blacklisting to obtain names of additional "communists" to target. Joseph Losey refused to name names, as did others who were subsequently blacklisted. Under the current regime that sacrifice of his own career (and later move to Europe) would be in vain since all of the people he could name would be easily available in the phone records currently being data mined.

Of course, it could be helpful if the White House really was serious about determining who actually leaked Valerie Plame's name....just check the phone log web to and from the reporter who broke the story. Oh, wait, that would have high ranking white house numbers on it, wouldn't it... (Seriously, this does put confidential informants at a significantly greater risk.)

if they object, say "you don't care, you have nothing to hide"

if they also don't mind the government coming into their home and looking around without a search warrant. Same thing.