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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:03 PM
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The propaganda and misleading polls have begun..we are so screwed.
Yahoo news: Associated Press

CIA Nominee Hayden Defends NSA Programs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060512/ap_on_go_co/nsa_phone_records_38;_ylt=Au7eorS.Mj.BnaOYuUnyRr7B4FkB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


"In a poll taken Thursday, almost two thirds of Americans said it was acceptable for the NSA to collect phone records. When asked if they would be bothered if the NSA had their phone records, Democrats and independents were more likely to be bothered than Republicans. The ABC-Washington Post poll surveyed 502 people by telephone."

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The NSA is the same spy agency that conducts the controversial domestic eavesdropping program that had been acknowledged earlier by Bush. The president said the NSA listens, without warrants, to international phone calls involving Americans when terrorism is suspected.

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Hayden would have overseen that program and any efforts to collect phone records of millions of Americans as NSA head from March 1999 to April 2005, when he became the top deputy to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte.


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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:05 PM
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1. We all need to shout
BULLSHIT
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:05 PM
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2. Who is Screwed? Bush?
I don't think this pathos is working anymore... do you?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:05 PM
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3. The poll storm troopers are ready to blitzkrieg at a moments notice.
Edited on Fri May-12-06 12:08 PM by bluerum
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:06 PM
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4. yea saw some this a.m.-they're desperate
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:06 PM
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5. Most of DU has rolled over already...
Citing... "No biggie".

Well, back to the Lounge.

TTFN!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:08 PM
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6. Must be reading a different DU than I do
I haven't noticed much rolling over. Have noticed a lot of posts trying to get us too though.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:12 PM
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12. It's the typical reaction...
Oh, I'm SO OUTRAGED!

(Disclaimer: Unless it means doing without some luxury or
complicating my life in any way.)

This too shall pass... As it always does.

(BTW... I'm severing my subscription to anything Verizon
and AT&T)
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:08 PM
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7. And they seriously think 502 people is a consensus!?



Typical bullshit.


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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:09 PM
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8. Was the poll done in the D.C. area
If so, I'd like to see their calling list. This is unbelievable (propaganda).
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:11 PM
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9. read this to get the straight story on those polls:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:21 PM
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15. those great details are just 'noice' to cnn et all. Too much to deal with
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:22 PM
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16. great blog... read yesterdays entry too
He goes into details about why it is illegal.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:11 PM
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10. Time to start taking names...
of the people that write this shit....I'll start...
By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writers
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:12 PM
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11. I call shenanigans!(n/t)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:13 PM
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13. cnn has repeated the abc poll on the hour today and had people on
to talk of it. over and over.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:15 PM
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14. Oh, please.

We've known this stuff for forever. Moderates let government do stupid stuff, that's how it is.

And thanks for preaching defeatism. That's really what we need now.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:52 PM
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18. Preaching defeatism? I've witnessed defeat after defeat with this
administration, I'm simply telling it like I see it. When the Dems actually 'grow a set' and the American People actually stand up to be heard (louder than the propaganda put out by the MSM), this administration is impeached, and the neocons are put out of business...then I'll begin my celebration.

Time and time again, scandal after scandal I've said "this is the one that will bring this administration down" only to be disappointed time and time again. I've sent emails, called congress, marched in parades, and voted my conscious and STILL there is no wide spread outrage.

I'm not a defeatist by any means but I sure am feeling on the ropes.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:35 PM
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17. A bull crap piece of propeganda, yet so effective
You can make data say what you want it to say. You can affect the data by using leading questions, or really in how you phrase the questions. You can selectively call people. You can massage the data after the poll by throwing out the material you don't like and playing up that which you want to keep. I know there are a lot of foolish, kool-aid drinking Americans out there, but I don't think that, in an honest poll, this would be the result. Numero Uno on the Screw the Democrats Over list is screwing with voting machines and otherwise manipulating elections. Numero dos? The Media lie and pander to the right. Whether news or talk radio, Americans are bombarded with RW propeganda until the sheer repetition of it makes it true. Numero Tres? The democrats with the outlets to the media either get on and act like Chicken Little, stammer at every bullshit question or simply play along with Corporate Repuke AmeriKKKa in Congress. The numbers I could list go on from there but these are where we are screwed. So focus on getting those problems fixed, and not som scimpy little poll.
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