This Time, It Really Is Orwellian: By Robert Parry

This Time, It Really Is Orwellian
By Robert Parry
May 12, 2006


Given George W. Bush’s history of outright lying, especially on national security matters, it may seem silly to dissect his words about the new disclosure that his administration has collected phone records of some 200 million Americans.

But Bush made two parse-able points in reacting to USA Today’s story about the National Security Agency building a vast database of domestic phone calls. “We’re not mining or trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans,” Bush said, adding “the privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities.”

In his brief remarks, however, Bush didn’t define what he meant by “ordinary Americans” nor whether the data-mining might cover, say, thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people, just not “millions.”

For instance, would a journalist covering national security be regarded as an “ordinary American”? What about a political opponent or an anti-war activist who has criticized administration policies in the Middle East? Such “unordinary” people might number in the tens of thousands, but perhaps not into the millions.

more at:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051206K.shtml

After all Ordinary Americans are right behind this President. Arent' they?

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So, they're not spying on "innocent Americans." What does that phrase mean? It isn't a legal term, since courts can only judge people to be "guilty" or "not guilty" of the crime with which they are charged.

My guess is that an "innocent" American, according to this administration, is anyone this administration determines isn't a possible terrorism suspect. Therefore, if your phone records are being examined, it would imply that the administration considers you a possible terrorism suspect, so you are automatically not an "innocent American." So it remains true that they are not investigating "innocent Americans," because the very fact that someone is being surveilled means that they aren't "innocent."

"Orwellian" is right.

i.e. liberals, Democrats, etc.

We are the enemy. We are terrorists.

on CNN,Matthews or the Sunday Pundit shows. If most Americans could read this it would open their eyes as to what is probably going on with this program and the "real" reasons for it.

It's disgusting the Propaganda out there today being pushed on NPR, CNN, MSNBC and CNBC about this. Everyone jumped on ABC's overnight poll and yet my City Newspaper just carried the article this morning. Most Americans had never even seen or heard about the USA TODAY article until they got home and had a chance to read it...even if they subsribe or picked it up off the newstand. Yet, ABC does a poll as if EVERYONE knew what the hell these new revelations were about. And the Media supporting the Telecom's couldn't wait to do "damage control." ABC was picked as the "toadie" this time.

These are the very same Telecom companies trying to take over or internet and charge us for "tiered service." Maybe AT&T got assurances the FCC would allow this dismantling of the internet as we know it, in addition to the money the NSA paid them from our tax revenues.

You can't get much more Nixonian than this. It should bring him down...but the spin will probably win in the end unless articles like this one manage to get out there to give people the proper perspective on this.

for their work instead of the Dana Milbank, Howard Fineman, Bushmoonie journos that get all the camera time.

administration: all others are the enemy.

meaning the government. Choice Point, the huge GOP data mining private company does. According to Palast who first investigated this corporation that did the Florida felon voter rolls so well in Florida 2000, they pass onto the government all the data mining info on everyone, surpassing the NSA in the amounts of personal information garnered.

And they have DNA records too that they are passing on with the goal of mining the DNA of every citizen of the good old land of freedumb. He stated in the e-mail advertising his book "Armed Madhouse" that then the first step would be to go after "criminals" through their families. Though he did not link to recent news that is exactly what is happening according to a recent LBN posting yesterday, dealing I think with
a British(?) proposal to do exactly that. A big baby step for the new E-Stazi, E-KGB, that makes all science fiction or history look appallingly sort on imagination and menace.

I would link to all the sources and implicated horrors mentioned above but they are simply too sweeping. I guess Palast's book is a good place to start. You don't need a conspiracy "theory" for this one, the lumbering progress of the crushing juggernaut is so breathtaking when you take a step back far enough that looking within to the driver and the machinery is NOT necessary.

What IS necessary is that you attack and break into it to destroy it before it destroys you. Then, in that VITAL process you may discover the perps and the machinations if you wish, the conspiracy facts so to speak.

Do the Dems, who have been warned about so many things close to their own careers and dealings ever get the big picture? Note well, the spying done WITHIN the Capitol upon Democratic representatives doing the job of the nation(or discussing politics) is just the amateurish trickle down from the BIG picture.
There no limits and that is the point and goal. Just as the bizarre list of individual vote suppression techniques and precinct corruption was NOT effectively countered or exposed by the Democrats so too we are not even close to getting toward the batter's box. The electronic scoreboard is already flashing we have struck out and unless a revolutionary sea change is happening in the minds and wills of the party there is going to be no chance to possible to get to launch a home run ball to take out the lights of that lie as in that Redford baseball movie.

In the book the hero strikes out, but our love of a happy ending tacked on the home run run. Reality is much much darker and worse than ever the author imagined in delving into modern high tragedy. In reality you won't ever get to play and democracy is virtually(pun intended) over for the control and profit of the owners. There is hardly an analogy large enough to compare to what we can see with our own eyes. Getting hit by a massive asteroid by comparison would be an honest mercy for our numb minds.