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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:40 PM
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Anyone noticed the latest spin
on MSM - they're discussing the government having phone numbers not monitoring phone calls.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:42 PM
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1. So what does having phone numbers do for stopping terrorist?
IF they are only collecting phone numbers, there is no way they are even attempting to stop terror plots.

All spin all the time. BULL SHIT!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:43 PM
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2. Reverse directories...
If they have your phone #, then they have your name and address, and the name and address of everyone you have spoken to... including the phone sex chick, your dealer, your mother, the mistress, your doctor, your lawyer... etc.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:44 PM
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5. They are spinning for Bush
This is madness
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Truthy Nessy Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:44 PM
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3. That is no problem for them with that.
All they have to do is use a software program that shows EVERY phone number they have stored on their data base that has called a certain number they want. EG: your phone number.....They all the numbers they have stored come up. with lenght and date called. All they have to do is look up who owns that number and they will get their address.

They could be using this on political opponents and peace activists. I used a program of this type for my analysis in fraud investigations.
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Truthy Nessy Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:46 PM
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6. sorry about the spelling errors.
I have tried to correct but there may be a problem with the check spelling as I keep getting locked out when I try to use it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:52 PM
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8. Political opponents and peace activists
then all opponents. Then you start losing your job because you're not a supporter and on and on to fascism.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:44 PM
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4. "trust us"
We know what's best :sarcasm:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:52 PM
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7. Are they selective who they listen in on? Can they be
trusted with all this information and power? NO.

Doctors, attorneys, politicians and businessmen have a lot to worry about these days.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:53 PM
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10. Everyone better worry n/t
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:53 PM
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9. I only want their credit card numbers, not their credit card bills.
I promise not to use them for anything bad.
No, really, I promise. Trust me. :evilgrin:
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:56 PM
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11. Such a naive statement...
They didn't tell us they were spying on foreign calls... the press had to leak that to us.

They didn't tell us they were datamining all of our phone records... the press had to leak that to us.

So we're supposed to believe they're not spying on us why? Because the press hasn't revealed it yet? Because they will. It's just a matter of time.

Taking this lying Administration on it's face is ridiculous when every single thing they've ever said has been proven to be a lie.

Rp
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 01:56 PM
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12. Simply Google a land line phone number - you'd be amazed
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:10 PM
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13. He lied because in the beginning he said
they were only domestic.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:13 PM
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14. Rush was trying to defend this by
making it seem like it benefited everyday people. As an example, he used, if you were accused of rape and you called someone when you supposedly were raping the accuser, you would be cleared by the NSA wire-tapping program. Of course that is insane because the phone company records would do the same thing! These people are really grasping at straws. Oh and he's still parroting the thing about it's only international calls and all of last month's lies.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:30 PM
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15. don't forget everything is twice as bad as what BushCo admits to.
why do people AND the media even believe anything these liars admit to? Everything that vomers out of their mouths is a lie.
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