John Gibson : "We need to make more babies"

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Good ol' John.

Someone please tell me John Gibson has no offspring.

The offspring of a jerk like John Gibson. :puke:

"OMG!!! Brown BABIES!!! Were DOOMED!!" -- John Gibson

I thought you couldn't say things like that anymore. But then it's Fox News, which lives in the 1950s. Damn, that Gibson is disgusting! I never would have guessed it when he was on MSNBC. What the Hell happened to him?

Tammy

Anyway, Mel's just the sort of immigrant cranking out babies that John was talking about. ;)

:spank:

It's been a long week...

the LAST thing we (we= the human race) need is am increase in births... jeez, WTF are they all going to EAT?

because the number of Russians is declining I thought the same thing.

And then we're attacking the problem from both sides!

John Gibson


Mel Gibson

:wow: ;)

EOM

:spank:

gee, that sure puts things into perspective for me.

"dampening" the interest, doesn't it!

Gibson, the one of fux news always reminds me of the line from Warren Zevon's song Werewolves of London- "I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at trader vic's, his hair was perfect". ( I'm assuming Zevon meant perfect for a werewolf in which case it seems to fit maybe both gibsons). All that said I'm no big fan of either one.

I wait for it with increasing glee every time I hear the song : )

"The Year of Living Dangerously." Wow, when that came out, I was :wow:

Now, I think he is completely unattractive 1)because he hasn't aged well and 2)because he's a total nut job freak.

looks, wise, but boy is he white!

Whadda Freak.

the man is insane.

I imagine once you get preggers, we'll start seeing some pronatalist programs like we have in Europe because you'll start using your extensive wealth to push for them.

Either that or we'll see the fastest abortion appointment in history.

the unhealthy ones get formula.

Sorry, it's Friday afternoon, and I'm feeling goofy.

:rofl:

I especially like the part about being misled by zero population mumbo jumbo.

And no we do not need more babies.

Does anyone remember overpopulation of the continent/planet is not a good thing?

as are MOST fundamentalist religions.. If you can't beat 'em, out procreate 'em..

Problem is...

Who's gonna stay home and raise all those kiddies?..Most Moms HAVE to have outside jobs to help feed the smaller familes we have become accustomed to..

Who's gonna pay for more schools, when the ones we already have are falling down in disrepair?

More jails? More colleges (hah!)?

Their personal eugenics program sure as hell produced some winners. :eyes:

nobody's brave enough (in the Land of the Brave, no less...) to even think of putting them under arrest and prosecute them for all the crime$ they've committed in the past, all the crime$ they commit now, and I would go as far as for all the crime$ they're about to commit soon. :banghead:

Cool user name, philosophie_! :-) ( :loveya: )

What they really mean is, "We need more poor white babiess, so that our world won't turn brown. But the white babies still need to come from financially devastated families - those devastated economically from having too many children with Mom staying home - so that they can grow to be servants for the ultra-rich!"

U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says
Research: 2 million babies die in first 24 hours each year worldwide

By Jeff Green
CNN
Wednesday, May 10, 2006
Posted: 1602 GMT (0002 HKT)

(CNN) -- An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway, Save the Children researchers found.

Only Latvia, with six deaths per 1,000 live births, has a higher death rate for newborns than the United States, which is tied near the bottom of industrialized nations with Hungary, Malta, Poland and Slovakia with five deaths per 1,000 births ...

The report, which analyzed data from governments, research institutions and international agencies, found higher newborn death rates among U.S. minorities and disadvantaged groups. For African-Americans, the mortality rate is nearly double that of the United States as a whole, with 9.3 deaths per 1,000 births ...

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/05/08/mothers.index/

Course, anybody concerned about little babies and their right to life, could always work on lowering the death rate ...

The religious right has consistently voted to kill every program that helped/helps us with children and families.

otherwise this country might just run out of white folks. :wtf:

Suck eggs, racist!

While the brown babies grow up to fight in the perpetual "War on Terror".
I betcha thats what going through his twisted mind.

One of their politicians was quoted as saying they didn't have enough Dakotans to do the low-end jobs. Great logic -- keep those poor women barefoot and pregnant so their kids can grow up to shovel manure and pluck chickens.

As for this Gibson yokel -- could he be just a little bit racist? :eyes:

Hekate

That is the most racist screed I've seen in awhile. So the U.S. becomes majority-Hispanic. So? And that is a problem...why?

It's not like the northern-European-descended American WASP type is exactly endangered. They still own everything, after all.

:eyes:

What a wonderful world this would be! ;)

There are too many people for the planet to support.

Almost every "white" society has population growth at replacement or below replacement levels. Most are at below replacement. China has fertility below replacement levels by virtue of totalitarian legislation.

Elsewhere, pretty much, low income, low education, and pro-child culture make for above-replacement population growth. Ethnic stability and control is a desideratum for some areas; for others, it's a bane. I love what asymmetries tell us.

Fertility (with assimiliation) and ethnic cleansing have always been how territories flip ethnicity, whether the territory's become Chinese, Zulu, Greek, or Arab.

The services of NSV Säuglingsheime such as the one described in this booklet, were a fundamental part of the childhood and growth of every SS Lebensborn (SS Society “Wellspring of Life”) baby. Every Lebensborn mother gave birth to her baby in a Lebensborn Home (about six in Germany) and stayed with the baby for approximately 18 months. At the point that the baby was weaned, babies and mothers went their separate ways with babies going to a NSV Säuglingsheim


http://usmbooks.com/lebensborn_home.html

These were the babies of the elite SS blonde blue-eyed men.

Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter (The Cross of Honor of the German Mother)


Bronze for 4 or 5 -- Silver for 6 or 7 -- Gold for 8 or more!
WOO HOO
:sarcasm:

What do you think about this?!?!

"But suppose God is black? What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?"

Bwahahahahaha.

the cradle of life is Africa, and we are (according to some) created in God's image, therefore, God is black and justice will prevail.

Arguably their racial stock is older; it was certainly once much more widespread.

I just spewed coffee all over it!

:spray:

Good one!

:rofl:

What's wrong with that? The majority of the population of the Americas combined already is. Even better would be if the whole world would intermingle, then we'd all be mixed breeds, good diverse genes, much healthier, and one less reason for being so damn hateful with each other.

....since moving to New Mexico, where there has been a majority Hispanic population much of our history (and Hispanics are still the largest plurality in our highly diverse population) I have come to have a profound appreciation of NOT having an overwhelming majority.

Is there racism here? Hell yes, everyone thinks their own folks is the best folks and others just don't make the grade, but we're too diverse to institutionalize racism and so it's confined to the casual, cultural forms of preference/discrimination/etc. that pose a moderate challenge to human nature. (Let's face it, a certain amount of cultural parochialism IS human nature, evolutionarily speaking.) So we are forced to learn to get along and do around and invent, even while we still think our own folks is best folks, etc.

In some ways, attempting to "eliminate racism" is an attempt to eliminate human nature, which will never succeed. Rather, we need to learn to keep racism, you should excuse the expression, 'equal opportunity,' and structure our social systems to minimize its influence. Racism goes toxic quickly, especially when there is a decisive majority that can impose its particular racism on the shape of society. A truly multicultural society won't eliminate racism (nothing can) but it will keep it at the atavistic, primitive level evolution has left us with. And we will all have to learn to overcome those instinctive us/other reactions with conscious egalitarianism, which will continue to reduce the influence of racism even internally.

meh, that's not too coherent but it's still early here. Anyway, more Hispanics, and Latinos (there's a difference, yanno!) and Asians and Africans and Middle and Near Easterners and Native Americans, etc. is a GOOD THING, unequivocally, so long as the total population doesn't increase too fast for the environmental infrastructure to bear.

incoherently,
Bright

No more Inuit. No more Sinhalese. No more of those nasty Navajo or indigenous Amazonians.

But we'd still find reasons to hate. Until we all believe alike, think alike, speak alike, dress alike (with due regard to climate) ...

Diversity would then become ... ?

How depressing.

English folk did not actually invent kicap, despite the great popularity that the tomato version enjoys throughout the English-speaking world.


Interesting little tidbit, anyway...

If so I decline. I have no desire to procreate with you. :puke:

Mz Pip
:dem:

How long are we going to put up with these fascist scumbags like Gibson?

How long?

....How long are we going to put up with these fascist scumbags like Gibson?

How long?

I wonder who that was laughing in the background, sounded sort of nervous to me.

He looks like a fucking mutant, and would undoubtedly produce very ugly babies.

Unfortunately, my girly-parts won't cooperate, Mr. Gibson. Should I be thrown in jail because I failed to do my womanly duty?

Russia is becoming depopulated because women can't afford to raise their babies, so they're giving them to orphanages, where they're being adopted by Americans. (No offense to anyone who's adopted a Russian child. I'm hoping to do so myself.) Also, a lot of Russian Jews left after the Soviet Union broke up because of the rampant anti-Semitism and the crappy economy.

and is actually PROUD of it!

THAT'S what gets to me most - that such thoughts are NO LONGER WISPERED in "like minded" closeted groups - they feel free to state them OPENLY and PROUDLY!

1950's here we come - no - make that 1850's!

These people want a "return" to the days of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson! They believe that the answers to all of today's problems require a return to the past...specifically...a return to their idealized past...a past which, in fact, never even existed!

This is the very DEFINITION of a conservative. They prefer the past over ANY future. Future involves change...and chage scares the literal fuck outta these guys! Of course it does!! Right now, they are top of the heap, elite, fat and sassy, with their hand in the cookie jar...and they don't want to lose that status...and they are afraid they will.

Understand?

the eco-system needs more people, NOT! What a dumb ass.

What the hell is he thinking?

it's the irresponsible and/or ignorant fucking that can lead to unplanned babies.

There's already too many fucking people in America - which is why I'm against immigration. Hope you are, too!

I don't need more competition for jobs, thank you!

wanna try stating your point in plain English?

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Excuse me...my desire for no more immigrants is NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM, OR XENOPHOBIA...

It is that I feel my own economic security is threatened by an influx of cheap labor from other countries, okay?

Sorry, but no one ever told me that...to be a liberal, one had to worry about everyone else, while their own needs go unmet.

I have been unemployed for a fucking year...the economy sucks, there are NOT enough jobs already, the last thing I need is more fucking people coming here to compete with me for those jobs!!

I need to fucking live!

No one ever said that being a liberal meant you had to put everyone else's needs ahead of your own...that you couldn't indulge in a little self-interest.

WTF? I'm supposed to want everyone ELSE to do well, while MY needs go unmet? FUCK THAT!!!

P.S. ON EDIT - And YES...until things are okay in MY wallet...until I have a nice, steady, secure, good-paying job...HELL YES...slam the door and double dead-bolt it. NO MORE FUCKING COMPETITION, GODDAMNIT!! I have had enough of being fucking unemployed and broke! I don't need more fucking people to compete with, okay?
I don't give a shit if they are brown, black, yellow, red, white, or green...I don't need more competition right now. THERE ARE TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW - PERIOD. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT COLOR THEY ARE, THERE'S JUST PLAIN TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE HERE FOR WHAT DECENT, GOOD-PAYING JOBS ARE AVAILABLE!!

AFTER I get mine...THEN open the door, and I don't give a damn.

...not other workers. I've been where you are, & I *never* blamed other workers. There aren't too many people. Too few good, well-paying jobs are being created, & the rich are making tons of money off our misery. It's free trade that is doing this. Free trade benefits the rich, & no one else. Don't fall for divisive neocon propaganda. You fell for one of Rove's tactics (& thank God that Rove is about to get his).

Tammy

and as far as I am concerned...immigrants are NOT a part of the solution. Therefore, they are part of the problem.

When I get MINE...then, I give a crap how many of them come...let 'em all come, for all I care. But, UNTIL I GET MINE...I want them to stay away, and don't interfere with my ability to get mine.

Is that such a horrible thing?

Yeah, maybe it is a shitty attitude, but you'd have a shitty attitude, too, if you were broke and unemployed for over a year.

Try it and see how YOU feel.

economic security? And that a lot of other people don't care about your economic security? Why should I value yours over that of any given Mexican's?

Because you're white?

People are going to move based on their economic security, not yours.

I was BORN HERE. They WEREN'T. Too bad, so sad...but I believe MY needs are more important than theirs, and mine should be addressed FIRST. I'm a citizen. They aren't.

I'm fucking sick and tired of my country not giving a shit about it's own citizens.

No, not because I'm WHITE. BECAUSE I AM A CITIZEN AND BECAUSE I AM HERE LEGALLY that is why.

MY country. ME citizen. Therefore, my government ought to put more weight and more concern on MY needs.

You know, there comes a point where, no matter how liberal you consider yourself...where you become broke enough...and unemployed long enough...where you begin to see selfishness surface. If you can't understand that, then obviously you have never been in my fucking boat.

Lib Grrrrl: "Again, nice try, city boy...and awful nice of you to think only of your own self, and your own situation"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1141600&mesg_id=1141961

Or is it Lib Grrl of today? "AFTER I get mine...THEN open the door, and I don't give a damn."

Which is it, hon? :eyes:

I am a selfish motherfucker. Okay? You got me. Happy?

Where economic security is concerned, I care about myself above and beyond everyone fucking else...and if you don't like that, you can kiss my rosy-white ass!

I have been unemployed and broke for a fucking year now. Why don't YOU try being in MY place for a year, and then see how you feel?

I'm sorry, but I don't see where this makes me such a bad person. Like you're trying to imply.

Welcome to my IGNORE LIST.

debt slavery, the disappearance of the middle class, and the prospect of a life of endless toil with nothing to show for it all make ME just wanna bring a cute little baby into the sunny world to share all the goodness...:sarcasm:

Would somebody please tell that retarded albino to STFU???

Anything to keep the gene pool from looking like Gibson and his ilk.

the Tv network for Arians only (and White supremists) = W

is obviously paying attention. :hi: I don't get how anyone can watch that network. I'm not even shocked anymore by the vile things they say. They've always spewed racist, hateful bile. Why should today be any different?

:crazy:

Well, not so crazy as it seems. Loneliness does worse to the soul than a news report about a failing currency would.

Pigman Limbaugh shows how to set the table and push the racist buttons via distortion, lies & smears...Rove, Gibson, Hannity, Coulter, etc... and all the rest follow Limbaugh's fascist bullshit religiously, the Goebbels school... Now known as the republican school of misinformation & propaganda!

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What an asshat! Mother Earth isn't burdened enough as it is?!?! Dayum, what a jerk~!

Seems like he's been reading those stories about the minority majority that's coming in about 25 or 30 years and he's a wee bit paranoid. It's already the case in California, Texas and New Mexico, JG. The nation will adjust. Deal with it.

As a white male, I guess I should dump my non-white wife and mixed daughter and shack up with a white woman and make sure she stays barefoot, pregnant & in the kitchen.

So there.

You sound just like my freeper brother, who asked me if I wanted the world overrun with Patels (his term for Indians). You're a racist, just like he is.

You know what's really scary is the drooling Fox News audience that isn't even outraged by his statements.

I'm a transsexual. Not possible for me to procreate any longer. As is the case with all post-operative transsexuals, I'm sterile.

and tell us it was all a joke.

On note:
I know he'd initially be thrilled to hear I have five daughters -- but since my wife is Korean, he'd probably be upset.
I'm guessing john 'jack daniels' gibson probably doesn't approve of race mixing.

All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color.

- Bullworth

Keep em in camps and have a whole stable full of women and a yard full of babies.
:argh:

He can't find a woman willing to bear a hundred children with him as the father. If he were a women it would be so much easier. He'd just go into pro-bono prostitution.

...I'm thinking he'd run a mile to avoid the skanky ho that would be JG as a woman.

Sorry, lame joke...

apologetically,
Bright

Huh.

but he should have been worstest in my opinion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1173761

This was from our first marriages. Heck, we're still young enough to have more. We are pale and of western European ancestry. Too bad for John Gibson that our children are all complete liberals with an understanding and appreciation of multiple cultures. (My oldest is nearly fluent in Spanish.)

So people need to learn to speak and write Spanish and English growing up? Big f*cking deal. The big question is, "What's wrong with being Latino?" I know many. Great people. Strong families.

Every generation of Americans has a group of immigrant scapegoats. :eyes:

Want to help the environment? DON'T REPRODUCE!

going on. I've been trying to find actual numbers, but I suspect Medicaid is the new eugenics. What I have noticed (I work in ob/gyn) is an large number of younger women who have needed "emergency" hysterectomies that way no test results needed, just a doctors statement, and no one protests sterilizing poor women (of any race), the risk of this happening goes way up if it is a public teaching hospital.

maybe Earth will end this madness earlier...sicko

:puke:

Jesus, what a racist bastard! I can just see him, acting like Chicken Little...the sky is falling!! The sky is falling!! Oh, hell, the WHITE RACE is doomed!!

Jesus, I'm white, and it's guys like that who make me almost embarrassed to admit to being white!

Have any of the right-wing fat heads stopped and thought about how their defacto social and economic policies are cutting the American birthrate? I doubt that they do.

The American birthrate is dropping for a lot of reasons. Many Americans are marrying late and are having smaller families not because of abortion but because they can't afford to consider having children until their late twenties or early thirties.

Even without the hideous financial cost of divorce, I see the younger generation as being further in debt than were Baby Boomers like myself. We had student grants and low-cost loans--the current generation has a bigger debt burden and is paying a lot more interest. So they're going to put themselves even further in debt by starting big families?

In addition, the right wing has been complicit in corporate America ditching health plans and health insurance. Right-wingers have stopped single-payer health care dead in its tracks here in the USA. Right-wing propaganda tells women to leave the workplace and airily dismisses the economic consequences for families when they follow right-wing counsel.

Raising kids is expensive, so is caring for those children if they get sick or get into trouble. The usual right-wing response to such crises has been to cut support programs for parents to fund tax cuts for billionaires.

Right-wingers have fought putting day care in high-schools--despite the fact that the mothers could get an education and become useful members of society and the babies could serve as a far more effective reminder as to why somethings might be postponed.

I could go on...

racist proto-fascists has been around for at least a decade. Their numbers are unknown, but you could hear calls for a reconquista during the 5/1 protests in Mexico.

The right denounces them, the left says they don't exist or don't matter so should be ignored. Of course, the right has fascisms and racism that it ignores. Yet another intriguing asymmetry.

:rofl:

:freak:

Ah, the joys of being childless!

I consider all RWers bigots until they prove to me otherwise.

So far I've yet to meet a RWer whose actions didn't show them to be bigots, despite the fact that a few of them protest otherwise.


RWer = Bigot

You exclude all those who consider themselves Rockefeller Republicans, the ones who signed onto the train for fiscal responsibility. It's mostly because the US definition of "right wing" is far, far, far to the right of that used everywhere else. When you set your bar low enough...

that I know are also raging bigots, but not all.

Being a white male bigot is very much prized amongst Republicans. Believe me when I tell you that I can "play along" with these people because I look like one - you should hear the bile that can come from a white male with a nice suit and tie on.

just ONE single Republican administration where the advancement of civil rights took place! And no, Lincoln is not the correct answer;he advocated sending the slaves back to Africa! Although racism and White male supremacy isn't explicitly stated in the Republican party platform, there has always been a nod-nod, wink-wink approach to it. Bear in mind that many or most of the Southern Democrats of the '60's that turned Repub were really Dixiecrats. When Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he knew he had lost the South for the next forty years. The "moderate", "fiscal-Conservative" Repubs are in the same camp, IMO. The deliberate attempt to dismantle the New Deal isn't just "on principle" or because "it's Socialism" for these guys. It's about maintaining the pecking order, about keeping women and minorities "in their place", about keeping everybody's roles rigid. Bush denounces Affirmative Action on Martin Luther King Day and gets away with it, Bill Bennett makes his comments about aborting Black babies and they cover and make excuses for him, ("What Bill REALLY meant was...") and so on.

the Democrats were none too shy about calling themselves the "White Man's Party" after the Civil War. There aren't but a handful of white people in this country whose hands are totally clean on the subject.

He's got this hair thing goin'.

If "nearly half of the children under 5 are minorities",
it follows that more than half are non-minorities.
and if "the greatest number of children under 5 are hispanic",
then the only possible conclusion is: hispanics are not minorities

You go get'em John...

Hey, John, so what?

What if 50% were Hispanic - or black - or some other race you don't approve of?

So what!

That's what THEY - racist WASPS - said of THEIR OWN RACE - when there were too many Italians, Ukrainians and Irish!

And those damn uppity blacks had to go and get "freed".

THAT was the "beginning of the downfall" for THESE PEOPLE.

Best to marginalize and make sure THESE PEOPLE eventually DISAPPEAR.

How can we expect tolerance of all races, when THESE PEOPLE can't even tolerate all persons of THEIR OWN RACE?!?!

This is a horrible remark.

Thanks for making a positive, actionable suggestion.:thumbsup:

who will the Republicans hate-monger against if the masses decide to marry outside their ethnic backgrounds?

And, since I'm remarried, if I choose to have more children, they'd be half-Jewish! Yeah, yeah - my own personal Gaza Strip. :7

Still, John, they're white. Latinos are white. It's BONE structure, you nim-rod, not skin color, that determines race and Arabs, most Jews, Latinos, along with those of European descent are CAUCASION, you dolt.

of doing anything to make this a better world for all those babies on the way. Like maybe--

1. Stop pointless wars

2. Reduce the poverty level in America (35.9 million people living in poverty, 12.9 million of them children).

3. Help the 3.5% of American households that experience hunger each year.

4. Develop viable programs to put to good use the 100 billion pounds of food that is wasted in America each year.

5. Recommend solutions for the 3.5 million (1.35 million of them--39%--children) homeless in America in a given year--of which 33% of the men are veterans.

6. Donating some of that fat salary to help remedy the fact that 52% of emergency shelter requests from families in crisis are denied each year due to lack of resources

7. Put forth any plan to help the approximately 14,000 - 20,000 American children infected with HIV--and to prevent further infections

8. Stop the erosion of public education by Fox's man in the White House

I'm wasting my (and your) time--of course there wasn't. Just have more white babies--fast. I'm ill.

Working to control the breeding stock (women and their uterus) of America since 1996.

Always hopping mad about something.

then they'll be in the minority at some point. oh well. whatever the facts bear out, ya know.

but to encourage breeding at the expense of not having to be in the minority with the hispanics is beyond racist, and shows how horrible our nation has become under Bushista regime if he's not fired.

I don't like the illegal immigrants for a dozen reasons, but this isn't the way to go about making your opinion heard... in fact, it's horribly embarrassing!


http://www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <---- CHECK IT OUT!

someone else who does not like illegal immigrants!!

PLEASE...speak up more regularly...I'm getting BLASTED here for my attitude concerning immigration!

Because I, too, am against it. Granted, my reasons are largely selfish, but...if you'd been unemployed and broke for over a year, you wouldn't be welcoming MORE COMPETITION with open arms, either!

but my father was Argentine. So am I white or Hispanic, John? Huh? *John's head explodes*

you'll find plenty more blond-hair, blue eye "white boys" who were born and bred Mexicans. You wouldn't KNOW they were Mexican or Hispanic, because we have been trained to think all Mexicans were brown folk.

Truth be told, and not that it matters much, really...but...what most folks think of as "Meskins" or, Mexicans...are actually the result of interbreeding between original Spanish settlers in Mexico, and Native American Indians.

Plenty of spaniards in Mexico City that have white skin, blond hair, blue eyes...and are HISPANIC!!

I have a good friend who is a Spaniard from Madrid, now married and living in Chicago. He attended a neighborhood association meeting where some grumbling arose about Hispanics moving into the neighborhood. He announced, You are talking about ME, so I will now leave. They were mortified, but it was too late.

Too bad I wasn't there! "I'm pale, and I have blue eyes and hardly speak Spanish but my dad is Argentine so I'm a Hispanic TOO! I'm not wanted here either!"

Actually, I learned this a strange way, myself. I was living in Texas...and I, too, had the idea that all Mexicans were brown folks...you couldn't miss 'em, right?

Then, one day, I was in my bank....in line, and this guy was in front of me. Looked like a normal white guy...an American...a Texan, even! He gets up to the window, and starts speaking in Spanish, astonishing the hell outta me!

That was my first encounter with a non-brown Hispanic. Well, turns out, I later found out that there were a LOT of "non-brown" Hispanics...and that my own set ideas at the time, were incredibly wrong!

which I'm sure is the case now in America judging by the polls but in 25 years the population will be overwhelmingly blue to the point where red has no chance of controlling the gov't for a long long time.

bingo! this du'er wins the award for most enlightened post of the day!

http://www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <------ CHECK THIS OUT! best site for DEM & anti-bush wares

will get confused. They won't be to tell who the should discriminate against.

They will continue to do as they do now...discriminate against anyone who is not White, Christian, Straight, and Male.

Believe me, I'm a transgendered woman who has felt the lash of their discrimination for a long time, and I don't expect it to go away any time soon.

They will continue to discriminate against ALL non-white, non-Christian, non-male, and non-straights.

America is in decline because of hateful little people like you.I don't watch fox,there should be more like me,tune out that hotair channel.

It's probably easier to find ways to kill off the offspring of our minorities..!! Kill'em young...!! not :/

"We believe in abortions for brown babies!"

They already aren't- there are more women than men, but white men still have most of the financial and social power. Why should that change for them???

Terra, terra! Same old song and dance. The powers that be (those who contol all the wealth) have two weapons: fear and ignorance. Always have. In this case, they're using fear to manipulate the old, Conservative white male into believing he's about to lose his place in line. That oughta teach him to think about dissent or anything else!

will make common cause, reaching across our own divisions...and gang up on them.

And yes, as a transgendered white woman...I am most definitely a minority. And a very discriminated-against minority, I might add.

and I, personally, would love nothing more than to see the downfall of THE MAN...the oppressor that has fucked us all for centuries!

Time to do a pic of this lizard! :grr:

and his rants about "breeding ourselves into power".





They do make a lovely couple, don't you think? :-)

n/t

The thing that gets lost in all this is that zero population growth is an admirable objective. We get so lost in the name calling and mud slinging that we seem to forget that the planets resources are stretched. We should stop applauding BREEDING from any group and look at the why and how of where it is going.

There's already too many fucking people here in America. I don't give a crap about color.

White, red, yellow, black, brown, green, or purple...there's just plain too many fucking people here already...and not enuff to go around.

Otherwise, I'd not be unemployed and broke going on a year now.

Secret US Eugenics Program

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Health/story?id=708780

Is there any way to track sterilization/birth rates locally?

Gibson really thinks that if he can puff his dna into a act of god and country, he'll get more?

With these comments, Gibson makes not only the child-free (of which I am one), but also the single-child families of this country out to be selfish, elitist WASPS who have nothing better to do than to worry about the state of their Beemer's leather of their white pile carpet. Give me a freaking break. How about those of us who are responsible enough to realize that we could not raise a child in a fair, responsible manner, or at the level of comfort that a child would deserve? How about those who choose not to have children because they simply don't want them (and thus would be poor parents)? Or those who recognize that they don't want to inflict genetically-carried problems of their own (such as alcoholism or mental illness) on their offspring? Or those who choose to have one child and raise it well and comfortably, rather than raise a brood of hungry, neglected cretins?

In the full article (link through Media Matters from the priginal post), he continues: "Forget about that zero population growth stuff that my poor generation was misled on... Make babies, or put another way -- a slogan for our times: 'procreation not recreation.' That's 'My Word.'"

His poor generation? Poor, deluded boomers?!? Good Gods, those selfish, materialistic, hypocrites now want my sympathy for being "misled" into not breeding themselves into eternal power? Oh, wait a minute!...

First, claiming "delusion" allows folks like Gibson to sit pretty in their comfy cars and small families while peering down their noses at the rest of us.

Second, Gibson's entire commentary ultimately betrays his true feelings and agenda, which revolve not around a fear of declining sustainable birthrate (though he claimed that in a later backpedal), but rather around a fear of miscegenation, so-called "race-mixing." It's not acceptable in modern, civilized society to admit that one feels that persons of a different pigmentation are a different "race," so the racists cloak their bluster in terms like "declning white population," rather than "increased ethnic mixing." The truth? WASP racists -- for so long the power elite in the U.S. -- are seeing their power shrink as we undergo another immigration wave. It's happened before, with similar crowing and yowling: in the mid-nineteenth century, the wave of Irish immigrants incited a backlash of segregation and abuses...until they internarried into mainstream America. Same with the Italian influx of the 1920s, which brought my own family to America. Hell, for that matter, Benjamin Franklin bemoaned the wave of poor German immigrants in the late eighteenth century! It's not that Gibson and those like him are worried about losing some obscure breeding race, but rather that they know from their own history that every time this happens, the white elite (a) are knocked from some significant position of power previously reserved just for them, and (b) lose their current scapegoat ethnic/immigrant group, previouly relied on for cheap labor because they are seen as somehow "less than human."

Furthermore, we can infer from Gibson's rant, as well as his admonition to "procreate, not recreate," that this racist elitism also underlies the drive by the religious bigots of this country to outlaw not only abortion, but also any form of birth control. Just as the elites need an unadulterated underclass to do their dirty work, the religious "leaders" of this country -- those hucksters, those con-men, those control freaks -- need an uncurtailed supply of "sheep" to blindly follow, an underclass who will turn over their ten percent without question, in exchange for a measure of hope in a hopeless world.

Take the red pill, America, and break out of the delusion. Racism is a lie, a shackle meant to provide a means to power for an elite who needs us poor, multitudinous, and compliant...who want us to hate the "other" (color, faith, orientation, party) rather than them...who want us to believe in them rather than in the power of us all working together and loving together and breeding us back into one solid, beautifully tan HUMAN race.

Dicersity is the spice of life. How fucking boring if we were all the same color!

christ...why can't we be colorblind, and just be one human race...of many different colors? and of many different traditions and cultures?

We are NOT a homogeneous nation, like Sweden, and we never were intended to be...nor should we be.

Instead, we should take advantage of our unique opportunity to examine other cultures, traditions, etc...and choose for ourselves what works best in our own lives.

To that end, though...we have enough diversity here already. I'm against immigration only because I believe that there are already too many people here in this country...and there is not enough opportunity to go around.

decide to have them with non-white partners? It still preserves the white genes, but eliminates the inbreeding.

:evilgrin:

Pretty fucking simple concept but apparently way too complex for Gibson's grey matter to comprehend.

One reason I am ever-so-fucking glad I never had kids...and why I am so grateful that it is now impossible for me to have kids. I DON'T WANT THE FUCKING FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY!! I have decided I cannot handle it, I am not adequate to it.
I have a hard enough time taking care of just me. I been unemployed and broke for a year now, and I'm so glad I didn't have a kid depending on ME, because they wouldn't been hurtin' for certain!!

I'm a transsexual, a male-to female transgender woman. So I'm sterile now. Can't have kids, and I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses there may be that this is so.

I do not want kids, I do not want the responsibility...this economy is far too shitty for me to want to take those kinds of risks.

I'm not talking about the ones living here as much as the ones in Mexico.
Must be most of them are Catholic and take that very seriously.

They are used to getting by on less than we americans are.

They have a simpler lifestyle than we are accustomed to.

I, for one...am damned glad I CAN'T have kids. I'm sterile. And quite by choice, I might add!

So if the majority of the US population became Hispanic that would be something to fret about. :sarcasm:

OMG. How do these people get away with this crap on national television. Clearly this is a statement in support of white supremacy.

I wonder if hispanics are going to turn into the neo-con's WWII Jews? They seem like facists more and more.

It lets us know the direction of the prolife movement in this country: Defend the white race. To be pro-choice is to be anti-white. so....Gibson's definition of America: not "the last, best hope of mankind," not to be found in the Declaration of Independence or in the preamble to the Constitution, but simply, tragically, this: America is a white man's country.
The other is something that has been picked up by countless people in this thread: what about interracial couplings? Gibson tells us all we need to know with his "nearly half of all children under the age of five in the U.S. are minorities." Procreation, not miscegenation. And Procreation takes precedence over love, and even marriage. Where's his defense of "traditional values?" We can spare the family but give us white girls carrying white seed? Ye Gods, he's drawing a salary as I type.