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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:47 PM
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All you actual & wanna-be psychologists, think about this
I have a question to pose to all of you actual and wanna-be psychologists--and for political psychologists, I ask you to think outside of the box.

Could the backlash over the total, complete, and miserable failure of bush* help Gore to win overwhelmingly if he were the Dem candidate in '08?

Here's what has been banging away in the back of my mind. I believe that many independent voter and others who voted for bush* in 2000 wish that they could have a do-over. Don't you think that many of them wish (even on a sub-conscience level) that they had voted for Gore?

The republican party is smelling strong of corruption, and many voters know that bush* could not have done the damage that he has done without his party as an accompliss. Many people vote because of a "feeling", quite frankly, how their psychies have been toyed with from the ads. Shoot, this is how bush* made a respectable showing--playing with voters psychies. Wouldn't Gore's mere name & presence as our nominee play strongly when they go to the ballot box?

I hope that my thoughts have transferred into a coherrent post. I am not advocating playing rovian bullshit mind games with voters. I am asking if the deep desire for so many who voted for bush* to have a do-over could translate into HUGE numbers at the polls for Gore.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:53 PM
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1. I recommended that as a bumper sticker on another thread.
"Gore 2008...Need a do-over?"

I agree with you completely.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:36 AM
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2. Are you in marketing? n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:27 AM
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5. No. Just a feeling that I got. n/t
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:20 PM
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8. ...and your feeling is an interesting one.
I certainly do not disagree with the premise; I have thought the same a few times myself. Which actually gives credence to your theory; namely, that people do not vote for intellectual reasons, but from the "gut."

I was just curious with my question, as Marketing people make me itch. (I'm in Engineering.) ;-)
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:09 AM
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3. Time is quite the teacher
pop quiz - Nov. 06

final exam - Nov. 08

attendance required.


spit out that gum!

dp
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:30 AM
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6. Yes, Nov '06 will be quite an indication
I've already RSPVed :)
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:22 PM
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9. "Iowa, I'm looking in your direction..."
SNL episode a few years back...Al Gore giving a pop quiz. ;-)
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:16 AM
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4. unfortunately, I think not
It makes sense that it should work this way, and probably would for those of us who are really into politics. But most people I think are conditioned to want something new. The very fact that Gore has been around too much can turn them, even if they wish they had voted for him before. People will associate Gore with "hanging chads", and not remember what his opinions and policy choices are. I mean, I like Gore. But if I were given a choice of Gore or Barack Obama...I think "oooh! Look at the new guy! he smiles all the time! no controversy surrounding him!" ya know?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:04 AM
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7. Being a Gore fan, I hope you're right., but am somewhat skeptical.
Edited on Sun May-14-06 02:05 AM by Vidar
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 09:26 PM
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10. I like it! It could be studied.
By the way, I have my baccalaureate in Psychology, but that don't mean shit.

--IMM
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM
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11. Here is my take
It is too early to tell. We do not know what the psychological landscape will be in 2008. As the landscape is now, yes, Gore would be helped by this ('this' being the mess of Bush). I think that most people can sense that Gore was robbed and deserves another shot.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:05 PM
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12. Yes, I agree
Not only the whole idea of how things might be today if Gore was sworn in instead of Little Boots but throw in fact that he did get robbed and I've notice electorates usually like to reconcile that sort of thing.

Julie
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:17 PM
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13. true
peace!
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:33 PM
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14. Maybe....I think his chances depend on the whether
the public is concerned about global warming or not. If they continue to want to live in pretend land and focus on Idol worship, then I think it will be easy to portray Gore as a pessimist and too focused on a strange problem. If the public starts realizing the crisis we're facing, then Gore will win by a substantial margin for being able to address real problems.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:34 PM
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15. IMO, it's about much more than global warming
I think that Gore could win big not only because of EVERY wrong turn that bush* has made, but also because bush* and those who promoted him are liars. Although the skit on SNL was comedy, they came pretty close to hitting the nail on the head--but that is often where great comedy comes from.

All of those indy voters who voted for bush* because they thought that he would be more fiscally conservative have seen a HUGE surplus turn into the largest debt in history. bush* tried to kill social security, and the voters know it. The majority of Americans now believe that the War on Iraq was a mistake. bush*s medicare debacle. bush* allowing New Orleans to drown---as the world watched in horror on their televisions.

The list goes on & on...

Many bush* voters are now, on some level, are realizing that they have been had. They will hear similar lies coming from the gop when it is time to put up their next nominee. It is my belief that when the '08 gop nominee stands next to Al Gore in the general election, the indy voters will, as an Act of Contrition, vote for Gore.
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