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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:12 AM
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A freeper on my veterans board posted this the other day:
Edited on Sun May-14-06 07:43 AM by newyawker99
Do you REALLY want the Democrats to win in November 2008? Do you want all the tax cuts rolled back? Do you want to allow amnesty for all illegal aliens? Do you want to pay reparations to all decendants of slaves?

What am I talking about?

It seems that John Conyers, a democrat from Michigan, is just chomping at the bit to start taking away tax dollars from people who never owned slaves so that it can be given to people who were never slaves in order to make up for how slaves were treated 140 years ago. That makes perfect sense, right?*

Reparations, gay marriage, open borders, impeachment, higher taxes, running away from the war on terror...gee, why do so many people think that having the Democrats in power would be a disaster for America?

Need I say more than "Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi"?

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And then I sent him this:


Gee, Mark...you didn't miss a single "talking point." Do they send these to you in an e-mail or do you have to look them up somewhere?? (Me writing to him)


With ratings down and an election coming up, the GOP take a new tack

Ron Edmonds / AP file
By Howard Fineman
MSNBC contributor
Updated: 11:28 a.m. ET May 10, 2006

WASHINGTON – This fall’s election season is going to make the past three look like episodes of “Barney.”

The conventional notion here is that Democrats want to “nationalize” the 2006 elections — dwelling on broad themes (that is, the failures of the Bush Administration) — while the Republicans will try to “localize” them as individual contests that have nothing to do with, ahem, the goings on in the capital.

That was before the GOP situation got so desperate. The way I read the recent moves of Karl Rove & Co., they are preparing to wage war the only way open to them: not by touting George Bush, Lord knows, but by waging a national campaign to paint a nightmarish picture of what a Democratic Congress would look like, and to portray that possibility, in turn, as prelude to the even more nightmarish scenario: the return of a Democrat (Hillary) to the White House.
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Rather than defend Bush, Rove will seek to rally the Republicans’ conservative grassroots by painting Democrats as the party of tax increases, gay marriage, secularism and military weakness. That’s where the national message money is going to be spent.

The numbers explain the strategy
The president has a job-approval rating of 31 percent in the latest comprehensive poll, by the New York Times and CBS. His “favorable” rating, a more general measure of attitudes, is only 29 percent — barely above the levels enjoyed, if that is the word, by Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter. Bush can’t hope to raise that number significantly by this November — no matter how many seniors sign up for the Medicare prescription drug plan or how many Sunnis join the new Iraqi government.

So the White House will try to survive by driving down the ratings of the other side. Right now, an impressive 55 percent of voters say they have a favorable view of the Democrats, one of the party’s best ratings in years. But the “favorables” of leading national Democrats are weak: 34 percent for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton; 26 percent for Sen. John Kerry; 28 percent for former Vice President Al Gore. The bottom line: As long as the Democrats remain a generic, faceless alternative, they win; Rove’s aim is to paint his version of their portrait.


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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:15 AM
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1. I bet he got real quiet
I've shut freepers up before with truth
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:30 AM
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3. I bet he is beside himself trying to decide...
...how best to spend the $3 he will likely get from this latest tax cut. Bill Maher had a beautiful smackdown breakdown of the numbers behind this slight-of-hand tax cut and once again the vast majority of taxpayers get diddlysquat back.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:33 PM
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14. He could maybe get a gallon of gas depending on where he lives.
Happy Days! :sarcasm:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:29 AM
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2. Do we view with disgust the W voters who enabled
the destruction of our country. YES. That simple.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:00 AM
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4. To use an old cliche -
A veteran who votes Republican is like a cow voting for McDonalds.

Ditto an active service member.

I'm an Air Force veteran - and I have never, not once, voted Republican.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:44 AM
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11. Great line!
"A veteran who votes Republican is like a cow voting for McDonalds."

Yours, or do you know where it came from?

I think I'm going to be using that one.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:05 AM
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5. I guess he's okay with having his veterans benefits cut.
if he even IS a vet.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:45 AM
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6. Thanks for fighting the good fight
It gets so frustrating debating with the brainwashed.
I have a buddy that hates Bush, but spouts the "I can't stand the Dems either. They're just as bad"
:shrug: :silly: :crazy: :freak: :dunce:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:23 AM
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7. Don't feel too bad
"I can't stand the Dems either. They're just as bad" is a popular cliché.

We have those here at DU, too.

Some people are so compulsively "hip" that they wouldn't be caught dead committing to a party, a candidate, or even an issue.

Except ... it's not hipness at all.

It's fear of being wrong.

--p!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:38 AM
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10. Not an independent thought in your head is there?
It isn't fear of being wrong that drives me but fear of being right. I have been aware of politics for well over five decades and I have a good understanding of what drives these guys on both sides of the aisle. I am a Liberal but not a Democrat. I am a registered Independent and I like to use critical thinking when I decide on people and issues. Not like some who vote for the Party ahead of what is good for America and themselves.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:29 PM
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13. Not fear of being wrong, but fear of a corporate state
Edited on Sun May-14-06 05:29 PM by upi402
Which is what we have, and are unlikely to undo without a non-corporate party and an aware and informed electorate.

With the TV news media we have, voting machine criminality, and the campaign cash corruption -I'd give us a 39% chance of getting it back without many extremely injured people.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:42 AM
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8. Simple answer to the freeper...
I'll take all of that, even if I don't agree with all of it, if:

We come up with a genuine, woking, plan to deal with terrorism

We regain the respect of the world

We stop indulging in incredibly expensive wars that accomplish nothing

We stop squeezing the middle class and once again let them MAKE some money

We stop the growth of government abridging our personal rights

We regain control of our foreign and domestic debt

(and that's just the short list)

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:12 AM
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9. My solution to the reparations issue- The Civil Rights Trust Fund
Any person or company that is convicted of (or found liable for) civil rights violations, discrimination or a hate crime, should be required to pay into a reparations trust fund.

So, if you and your buddies get drunk and drag a black guy behind your pickup truck, in addition to all the civil and criminal penalties normally involved, a portion of your wages (for the rest of your life) will go toward slavery reparations.

If you advertise an apartment to rent, and you say to yourself, "My goodness, he's black," and then tell them the apartment's already been rented, then a portion of your wages (for the rest of your life) will go toward slavery reparations.

If your company is found liable for giving white people priority seating in its restaurants, then a portion of any settlement or fine paid by your company will go toward slavery reparations.

In addition, there should be a box on your Federal Income Tax form where people can designate an amount to volunarily contribute toward reparations if they so wish.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:38 AM
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12. I regularly troll the RW sites,
and the reparations thing is big on them....another scare tactic. Undoubtably, the RW Amurkans are too stupid to know when they are being manipulated, again.
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