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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:44 AM
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US could access EU data retention information (phone calls, emails, etc.)
http://euobserver.com/9/21580

US authorities can get access to EU citizens' data on phone calls, sms' and emails, giving a recent EU data-retention law much wider-reaching consequences than first expected, reports Swedish daily Sydsvenskan.

The EU data retention bill, passed in February after much controversy and with implementation tabled for late 2007, obliges telephone operators and internet service providers to store information on who called who and who emailed who for at least six months, aimed at fighting terrorism and organised crime.

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Under current agreements, if the FBI, for example, is interested in a group of EU citizens from a member state who are involved in an investigation, the bureau can ask for help with a prosecutor in that member state.

The national prosecutor then requests telephone operators and internet service providers for information, which is then passed on to the FBI.


International Patriot Act, iow.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 08:52 AM
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1. It's hardly shocking that countries will cooperate in legit investigations
Frankly this sounds one huge hell of a lot better than the NSA thing, because the FBI is a law enforcement agency, first of all, and second of all, the US authorities have to talk to a prosecutor in an EU country, who is also part of law enforcement, not some secretive military organization.

The US can't simply (according to this agreement) get all EU phone records of all citizens in perpetuity.

Since when did Europeans become more free than Americans though?
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:22 AM
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2. Actually, the EU has often been more interested in privacy...
than we are.

Major bones of contention in trade have been the EU's refusal to allow data sharing and selling, like credit with card purchases. Some US companies insist that a large part of their profits come from selling customer data, and that would be lost in the EU unless they change.


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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:14 PM
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3. I think victims of the Stasi will not mourn the lost profits there.
Or victims of the KGB, or well... ...it's a long list, huh.

Hope we're not listing the victims of the NSA soon. That would be sad.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:28 PM
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4. What is sad, and a little scary, are...
all those comments about how it's OK if it keeps us safe.

And about how "I have nothing to worry about if I've done nothing wrong."

This isn't new, and we've heard it all before with past anti-Communist and anti-crime hysteria. So far, we've managed to live through it without much damage, but how long can we keep winning this fight?

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