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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:32 PM
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examples of indicting someone in secret?
Maybe is would help me accept this story if I could see an example of something like this happening.

For example, when Scooter was indicted the announcement was right away.

So, can someone point a case out to me where a prosecutor came out with a big announcement that he/she indicted someone 3 days ago?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:36 PM
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1. sealed?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:38 PM
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2. Here you go:
Edited on Sun May-14-06 02:43 PM by GloriaSmith
http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/articles.asp?articleID=3655


Bonner was arrested about 9 p.m. on Sunday at the Milton Street S.E. home by patrolmen Doug Hipple, Jeff Orth and Christopher O’Rourke.

A secret indictment was issued by the Trumbull County grand jury in the shooting death of the 25-year-old Anderson, 2206 Peace St. N.W. The two were involved in a double shooting at a lower-level apartment of the three-story Avon Oaks Apartments on Southern Boulevard N.W.

on edit:

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/argus/index.ssf?/base/news/1147210269121290.xml&coll=6

A secret indictment has been issued for a former waiter at the Beaverton Azteca restaurant, says a source with the Washington County Sheriff's Office Fraud and Identity Theft team.

and another:

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/041306PleaDeal.html

DuBois, 29, editor of the blog, ErieVoices.com which focused on judicial and political corruption in northern Ohio, and his associate, Dr. Baumgartner, 51, were charged last summer with multiple felonies in a secret indictment obtained by Kasaris whose boss, Cuyahoga county prosecutor Bill Mason and other public officials had been the target of the blog’s allegations.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:25 PM
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10. thanks!
:thumbsup:
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:39 PM
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3. Just A Guess....
It may be that the GJ has voted on the indictments, but they have not been officially filed in the formal court setting, as was done with libby. I believe they have the procession from the meeting room down to the court, where they hand deliver the indictments, and the judge accepts them.

It could be that the indictments are ready, and awaiting the procedure, following which Fitzgerald will hold a news conference, as he did last time with libby.

Perhaps Fitzgerald will do this on either Monday, or else he'll announce a Wednesday news conference on Tuesday. But I'm just speculating here.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:43 PM
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4. This is a primer about sealed indictments published to help
the reader understand the Duke Lacrosse Case.

ABOUT SEALED INDICTMENTS Law professors and Triangle prosecutors said the most common reason for sealing an indictment is the fear that a charged person will skip town.
In a high-profile case where potential defendants have hired lawyers, a prosecutor might seek a sealed indictment to give those charged a chance to surrender before the indictment is made public, said District Attorney Jim Woodall, prosecutor for Chatham and Orange counties.

Prosecutors also might ask for a sealed indictment to protect an investigation, hoping the person charged might offer evidence against others. This is common in complex conspiracy cases such as racketeering investigations.

To obtain a sealed indictment, a prosecutor simply needs to ask the Superior Court judge presiding over the case -- either in open court or in chambers, Woodall said. Seals are temporary, said Richard Myers II, an assistant law professor at UNC-Chapel Hill. Once those indicted have been arrested, the indictment is usually made public.

Source here - http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/429865.html

The Duke Indictments were sealed too.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 02:50 PM
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5. It is not sealed in this case
see thread by WillPitt http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1186820

Fitz told Rove's attorneys he has 24 business hours before he has to turn himself in or be arrested.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:36 PM
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6. I can't find the part where it says:
before he has to turn himself in or be arrested. :shrug:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:13 PM
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9. One the warrant has been signed that is the only two option just
like Rush...

IMHO there will not no Frog March with Rove, Fitz is a gentleman unlike Starr.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:49 PM
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7. TO's contention appears to be that it is sealed and is why it is not yet
a matter of public record. I say that it "appears" to be what they're saying based on:

Friday's Leopold article said the indictment would be sealed. Saturday after posting Leopold's Saturday article, Will Pitt started a thread explaining what a sealed indictment is. But Saturday's article does not explicitly state that the indictment was sealed, although Friday's article said it would be. And Pitt's sealed indictment thread appeared in response to the posters asking how could an indictment not be a matter of public record.

If Fitz was spending all day with Luskin and wasn't at all with the grand jury or at the court, the indictment (I'm speculating of course) likely would have had to have been handed down before Friday and would not have been public only if it had been sealed.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 04:12 PM
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8. if is only "sealed" in that the police will not show up at his door until
after the 24 hours. IF Fitz was talking to Rove's attorneys about it then it is not in the normal sense "sealed"
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