Speaking of privacy, what do you think about zillow.com?

www.zillow.com

is all about trolling vast amounts of property information for almost any home in the US?

looked up my mom's house...and it gave me a satellite picture of her neighborhood

Here's one of Cryptome's many "eyeballing" series. Just remember, Zillow doesn't list your mom's occupation, medical history, legal affairs or a host of other things which would be more intrusive. For example: The home of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen A. Cambone. Believe it or not, Cryptome does not break any laws in publishing the material it does. There have been several visits by the FBI, but no laws have been broken. Those eyes in the sky are very big. Whole piece, one of dozens if not hundreds done by Cryptome, here. Cryotome has been around for years, btw.

...based on records freely-available. Property tax records are notoriously easy to get ahold of.

What I'm worried about is organizations, like the NSA, listening to me talk dirty to my girlfriend on a private phone call. And with good reason: About 90% of the female agents (and around 10% of the male ones) would instantly realize what they're missing in their own relationships, sell everything and move to Oregon in hopes of wooing me.

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PB

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PB

some of the home values are derived from their "proprietary formula." My house is subject to their formula, so the stated value is different than what the accessor's office says.

is already public record.

provide this info online. I know mine does.

because those records tell you who owns the property and the mortgage etc. Zillow doesn't give out that information.

And the home values, depending on where you live, may be calculated using zillow's formula, rather than the local tax office's.

shows a picture of my house. The picture was taken from the street. It also has maps.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pnwmom&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=iw

http://www.whois.net/

www.epic.org


Spotlight: Employment Verification Database
Expansion Threatens Security
This month, Spotlight surveys the Basic Pilot employment eligibility verification system conducted jointly by the Social Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security. Lawmakers are debating legislation that would greatly expand the Basic Pilot system, making its use mandatory for all employers nationwide. This would cost $405 million from 2006-2010, according to the Congressional Budget Office (pdf). However, a recent Government Accountability Office review (pdf) of the program shows that the system is riddled with security and accuracy problems that would be exacerbated by nationwide expansion. EPIC's Spotlight on Surveillance archive. (May 9).

the sister of a dental school classmate of mine is one of the principals. She's very excited, but we all know how prone to error this stuff can be. It is rather fun to screw around and check your college classmate's values and the trend...then call him up and f--k with them...

Have a great time!

They have certainly expanded their searches in the last few months. No I do not like it. :(

Sale prices are public information, and sale prices for houses are important information.

Furthermore, they don't have all sale prices at that site. They use a formula to estimate values. It's not 100% accurate, but it does appear to be good information.

It said there were NO houses in an area where I know there are several that are woth a million +.

being up-to-date, in all areas.

My mother's house is relatively new, and it doesn't show up. My mother-in-law's is out in the sticks and the only satellite photo is completely unintelligible. So I guess the trick is to live in a new place or way out in the middle of nowhere.

the address I was looking for was for an eighteenth-century house in the country that has been restored. I've checked the county records and know it has been evaluated at over a million dollars. Neighbor's houses are of the same era and have also been restored.

Redstone

I looked up my own house. My house is 9 rooms, 4 bedrooms, 2100 sq. ft.
In the 80's an addition was put on creating 2 bedrooms and a porch, and in 1994 a garage and breezeway were converted to a "great room".

Zillow shows the specs for my house pre- 1980's, when it was a five room, 2 bedroom cape.

value taking into account property sales in the area.

you don't want to correct that with the tax accessor unless you want your taxes to go up.

expert and end of all of pricing and value.

the ebay goal is to have people say to you "but I saw it on ebay for less..." thus making ebay prices
the go-to for value.

we see it all the time in the records/albums collectors and art market where we have some fun with music related stuff.

some wank will look at a like new 40 year old album with no visible marks or wear for $20 that "I can get on
ebay for 99 cents" our response is always: "glad to hear it, get it on ebay. thanks for sharing."

the ebay excuse is a ploy to get a lower price.

zillow may soon pop up in house sale negotiations, if it has not already.

of course that is nothing compared to the biggest real estate rip off, which is paying some agent 6% on top of your debt,
thus converting your 6% loan into a 12% loan.

Msongs
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batik & digital art
mugs and shirts

it's lots of fun :popcorn: but they are wrong on my house. :o