So, what happens when they steal the election again?

somebody?

anybody?

I don't know, Catwoman. We can only step up efforts to stop them - at any cost. And cross the 2008 election bridge when we come to it.
Ringo

nothing will happen.

and never again...

Shut it down. Also we need total exit polling too.

Only Utah, Wyoming, & Idaho have more then 50% approval for bush.
The 06 election will be an up or down vote on bush.

The demons of truth would be unleashed. There
could be blood in many streets. General uprising,
just like 1776...except the Tories are the republi-can'ts.
I love the smell of burning stock certificates in the a.m.

DLC agents?

violence.

j/k

:)

...will wish you had been with us in the Gungeon all along.

don't think anyone is in the mood for "more of the same"

seriously...who?

hope that's the case

the media only reports a "story." If there are massive screw-ups with the machines, long lines, etc they can report that. But if there is more underhanded rigging and fudging going on, how do they know, in a system with no transparency? We need oversight of the election process, true oversight. I don't think we'll have a situation as in 04 when the media was complicit with the loss of the exit poll figures. They won't be doing any exit polling, is what I understand. Seeing something amiss may even be harder.

the media (Lou Dobbs really) pushed this so called "immigration" issue to the fore-front,
and how the media (again was it mostly Lou Dobbs - I'm in Canada so don't watch many other
US news channels) pushed the Ports Issue to the front page...

If the media reports polling that is widespread between dems and cons (dems higher)
then it will be much harder to justify "election" theft then when polls says, for example,
Dems are ahead by x% while republicans are sitting at lets say 29%...Theiving
an election with this kind of reported spread would be very difficult. If the media
decides to continue reporting fairly "accurate" polling..then theft is more difficult,
more blatant, more obvious. That's sort of what I was referring to.

and worry it like Lou Dobbs is doing with immigration. Last time in 04, it was only Keith Olbermann on MSNBC who questioned the election. The rest of the media was totally complicit in the cover-up. I hope Keith has company this time.

Well I don't know if poll numbers can be trusted. The pre-election polls will be conflicting --the ones sympathetic to Pugs will have the margin closer. Only up-to-the minute exit polls have ever proved to be truly accurate. We need independent (non-media connected) exit polls but apparently we wont have those in November. I think this bunch is so corrupt that they blatantly steal elections and then just dare anybody to do anything about it. Already Rove said he thought the Pugs would "pick up 10 more seats." My head goes tilt at that statement in this current climate, but maybe he feels very confident that the fix is in. If there's discrepancy between pre-election polls and the outcome, they'll just make up some lame rationale and the corporate media will just play along.

I sure hope not though. People are so fed-up with this
admin, that it would be really "weird/bizarre" if they stay in control
of congress and/or the senate...but bizzarro-world has become
the norm for 6 years *sigh*

see you on the other side of the elections. They will be a test. :scared: I hope since 2004 that more people have realized the US elections are not to be trusted and need serious comprehensive reform. Citizen outcry might get some attention, if it seems obvious that there is rigging. But so much of that kind of corruption is under the radar. How long can any of us stand Bizarro World before there is some kind of mass nervous breakdown?

Seriously, I think if Republicans steal it again, the country has a nervous breakdown. They can't govern, all they can do is loot the Treasury and start wars. The federal government will implode and we'll be back to trying to keep sanity at the local/state level.

I don't know which way to turn. They WILL steal this election. I've already told myself to prepare for it, emotionally. I'm not sure what I'll do afterward.

with all this talk about "all the seats we will gain".

I just can't do it.

I refuse to let myself get my hopes up
Posted by CatWoman
with all this talk about "all the seats we will gain".
I just can't do it.

i'm even worse---when well intended people start talking about upcoming elections and taking back seats i mutter under my breath "stfu you naieve moron"

with lots of machine breakdowns and so on. Even so, Casy won, and 2 GOP leaders of the legislature were booted. I don't know if there's hope, but it's possible we'll just overwhelm them, even with all their cheating and "incompetence"

(of course, that's what I thought in '04)

Hmmmm.

which have a tendency to get tossed. We need better oversight everywhere there's an election.

Simple as that. I have been patient and diligent - bit if it happens again, I'm out.

...for two days. Everything. No transport of goods, no conducting of business of any kind, and no buying of anything unless you absolutely have to have something.

If that doesn't get their attention, do it again in 2 weeks, but this time do it for a week.

Of course.

if nobody will give me a ride, hopefully I'll be joined by millions of other mad as hell people who'll shut this fucking travesty down until we get a fair and accurate election.
Seriously, if we do nothing then we deserve to be eliminated in the camps or whereever we're put. There can be no more talk of loyal opposition we divide into camps and winner take all.

One symptom off insanity is to keep doing the same thing over expecting a different result.If they win again I will realize it truly is over.

I really don't know.

at least I'm honest about it.

I just don't want to be remembered as one of the people who let this happen to the world while I was here.

Enough is enough and we won't take anymore. If the election is stolen again, we must march and take this country back, by force if necessary.

People who are hungry and starving in the streets foment revolution, check your history books.

Because I will have ran out of all remaining hope.

NOTHING! The two party system has been absorbing and redirecting the dissident energy for years now.

that nothing will be accomplished.

I said we needed to do things the Old Fashioned way and somebody decided to delete the thread. I say we hit the streets BIGTIME! We make all other protests look smaller.

Just like they always do...

That's why we better hope this election doesn't get close. If it does, all bets are off.

These are the same people who are so concerned about the security of our society -- that they only out a CIA agent if they *absolutely* have to in order to maintain political power...

:rofl: