Is impeachment of Bush really the best way to go???

So here's the thought, say the Democrats win back control of congress and move ahead with impeachment. Will this move to impeach embolden the divided conservative base of the GOP? Because the GOP base right now is divided on numerous issues. If the Dems move ahead with impeachment, will this make conservatives more united in 2008?

So I am thinking that maybe impeachment isn't the best option. Maybe we should let Bush finish his term and keep the GOP divided in 2008.

and then the Imperial Presidency becomes the Impotent Presidency. He just withers.

Endure gridlock and investigations, or else resign.

These fuckers scare the shit out of me. They are liable to do anything if they know there end is coming.

If they attack Iran, do you propose we just let them?

Three ways for Bush to attack Iran...
1. Bush gets authorization from congress
2. Bush can order strikes but after 60 days (maybe it is 30 days, not sure) he must seek approval from Congress to continue.
3. Iran shoots first.

They are not supposed to be spying on us either. It's illegal, yet they are doing it.

They don't care about laws, the Constitution, or protecting us. They only care about power and money.

Like I said, they scare the shit out of me.
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Search for the "Support Iranian Freedom" Act or some such. I can never remember the name.

of the Iraqi war resolution to include doing any goddamn thing he pleases, so if push comes to shove he will just use the IWR as the legal basis for avoiding the war powers resolution.

Iran shoots first or second, or object strenuosly to getting the crap bombed out of it, ought to be sufficient justification to brow beat congress into authorizing whatever nonsense these thugs want.

...no impeachment would probably be ok this late in his lame duck Presidency.

However, I believe they will have no choice but to impeach him once the investigations start.

The vagaries of any case aside, it's never too late for impeachment of a deserving soul.

(sorry to be cheeky)

to ditch the immunity thing on bush, and realize he is a danger to everyone.

demands it.

not stand for his facism and war crimes. I don't want future generations to know that we re-elected him and then stood by. It shows that we (collectively) approved of his tactics. I, for one, don't want that.

to worry about than impeachment.

But, it seems most Dem leaders are NOT advocates of open government.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/051006.html

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So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results

Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

Later, as tensions grew in the Middle East, the American people and even U.S. policymakers were flying partially blind, denied anything close to the full truth about the history of clandestine relationships between the Reagan-Bush team and hostile nations in the Middle East.

Clinton’s failure to expose that real history also led indirectly to the restoration of Bush Family control of the White House in 2001. Despite George W. Bush’s inexperience as a national leader, he drew support from many Americans who remembered his father’s presidency fondly.

If the full story of George H.W. Bush’s role in secret deals with Iraq and Iran had ever been made public, the Bush Family’s reputation would have been damaged to such a degree that George W. Bush’s candidacy would not have been conceivable.

Not only did Clinton inadvertently clear the way for the Bush restoration, but the Right’s political ascendancy wiped away much of the Clinton legacy, including a balanced federal budget and progress on income inequality. A poorly informed American public also was easily misled on what to do about U.S. relations with Iraq and Iran.

In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.
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And let the voters know that there is a difference in political parties and their vote does matter. They need to know that violators are punished for their crimes.

When this is done it needs to be explained/orchestrated by those that make it easy for the viewers to understand.

... bush resigns.

...though that has risk too if Bush can appoint a possible successor :(

Whatever happened to doing what is right?! America has lost its sense of values. This Son Of A Bitch named George W. Bush and his Partner In Crime Dick Cheney need to go, and they need to go NOW! Impeach these bastards at the earliest opportunity for success, presumably November!

On edit: I left out an exclamation mark after the first sentence!!!

lose what little moral high ground it still retains.

In other words, the democracy that our founders thought they had created (and an idea that everyone who posts on DU likely still believes in)will be in the toilet and this 230 year old experiment will have failed miserably.

The whole world is watching and expects Americans to finally do the right thing. We owe it to everyone in the universe to keep the dream alive.

I'd love to hear Republicans on TV tripping over themselves to explain why he should NOT be impeached, by their own Clinton-era standards.

Of course, most of the DEMs are too uncreative & frightened of Republicans to ever call them on the carpet like that.

for their crimes, or if it is inconvenient to do so, just let them off?

The best way is for Congress to march on the White House with a list of the Bush Administration crimes and a demand for Bush's, Cheney's and the Cabinet's resignations.

Hopefully they will also have a temporary transition government ready to take over until we can have elections.

That is the best way, but impeachment would be nice too.

Do you think Bush deserves to be impeached?

..shouldn't we take the keys away and trust them to someone who is NOT under the influence?
ESPECIALLY since we're stuck riding in this particular vehicle? :scared:

Let's keep him as a while - I'll clean up after him :D

If the Democrats win in 2006, it will be because enough people have decided that they've had it with the organized crime operation that the GOP has morphed into. They want it cleaned up.

I see this stupid question every day in teh forums

Let me ask you this. . .a serial rapist is dying of aids. We know exactly where he is and have abundant evidence against him. We can catch him and try him for his crimes or let the disease kill him. After all, who is he hurting really?