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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:11 AM
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Need help responding to idiot RW parrots?
Lots of interesting stats here. Good stuff for those looking to counter RW astroturf email garbage!
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/05/stats.html

Stuff like:

The cost of the Bush tax cuts this year alone is enough to give $9,793 to each of the 2.9 million people who've lost their jobs since he took office.

Revenue loss from the Bush tax cuts over the next decade equals Social Security's baby-boomer reserve.

In 2001, 476 more Americans died of malnutrition than from terrorism.

Paperless voting machines were named the worst technology of 2003 by Fortune magazine.


There's a couple beauts about WalMart. Nice chart on what bush tax cuts mean for different income groups. Nifty graph showing age brackets for various questions about gay marriage, showing the RW position supporters are dying off.

Page lists sources for info too. It is SOOO cool. Check it out


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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:13 AM
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1. Thanks...
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:29 AM
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2. So, this means the rise in gas prices alone overtakes the tax cuts
for the majority of Americans. In my bracket, the cut is 71 bucks a month. Before he became President, at 1.25 a gallon, I have a 14 gallon tank, filling up once a week was 70 bucks. Now, it is 159 bucks.

I don't drive very far or often. What about folks that have a long way to commute to work?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:53 AM
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3. Which = more federal money to oil companies
We are just the conduit.

I don't drive often either. When we do take the car out, it is a LONG way to get supplies.

How do working class on a shoestring pay for gas? They were hocking stuff to buy it last month. This month? Next month, if they don't have really good mass transit, I guess they just stay home from work, if they have jobs... until they lose that for failure to make rent/mortgage payments.

Back in the days of Bush the Elder, I had a very wealthy client grab my hand and plead with me (with tears welling up in her eyes) to go lower on the fee I was gonna charge her for alterations she wanted done on a huge pile of clothes she just bought. Her words, I kid you not: "Can't you do better than that? With the economy the way it is now, I've already had to cancel two cruise vacations this year!" I looked at the tears forming in her eyes, her quivering lips, removed her hand from off of mine, thought about my 3 mile walk home from work in 107 degree weather and told her: Nope. That's what it will cost to make all this fit.

I guess she got spared canceling cruise the past couple years with her tax cuts. Me, I walk.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:54 PM
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5. Yes, here in the Orlando area, folks voted several times against a rail
system. After being in stationed in Germany in the military, I saw what a benefit a good transportation system was to people. If their car broke down, if they couldn't afford a car, they could afford this system. It would go anywhere within two blocks or so of where you needed to go. But folks just voted it down. Our rail system in the US has really fallen behind. It costs a pretty penny to use Amtrak, and it is not convenient because you have to go way out of the way in order to get a train to where you want to go.

In Europe, you can get the Eurail pass, and I am sure in each country you can get a pass as well. The systems provide many jobs, and convienient, inexpensive transportation for everybody. For the nation that started the rail, we really have lost it.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:22 PM
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6. Most cities don't even have a fair bus system.
Edited on Fri May-19-06 02:22 PM by havocmom
When the rich folks find their yards overgrown and pools full of alge, they're gonna scream bloody murder about how lazy the hired help is. :eyes:

The hired help will be lookin up recipes and tracking down boxes of
Rich Folk Helper
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:20 PM
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4. Kick for the afternoon shift
:kick:
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