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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:20 PM
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AP says Both parties got Abramoff $, when will the lie end?
"Lawmakers in both political parties are steering cash they got from disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff to good works."

http://start.earthlink.net/article/pol?guid=20060111/43c490d0_3ca6_15526200601111742737813

Do you guys have the gov. source that collects this for me to educate these dweebs with?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:21 PM
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1. Take note of the reporter lying about this and call AP and tell them to
KNOCK IT OFF or you'll start a class-action suit against them for all the lies they're spreading.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:24 PM
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3. Yeah, maybe we can sue the bu$h administration also.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:33 PM
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4. The point is to hit them with a wave of WE CAUGHT YOU LYING.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:33 PM
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5. Maybe Dean can do it?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 PM
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25. Why Not? It is working for DeLay
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 02:56 PM by dogday
he threatened to sue tv stations in Houston that if they showed an ad tying him with Abramhoff scandal, he would sue them... I know of 4 major stations that are not showing the ad....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:42 PM
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26. Exactly - when do we put them on notice with our own threats?
Heck - DeLay is LYING and that doesn't stop him.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:58 PM
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27. I wrote a letter to the Chronicle
stating all the tv stations in Houston had no problem with the Swiftboating of John Kerry. They showed those on every station several times a day and we have since then found their accusations false. I see no difference in this, so why does a Congressman get more respect than a Presidential Candidate? good question....
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:24 PM
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2. It's the FEC.
Tell them Dean's team pored through the FEC records in detail and found not one direct contribution from Abramoff to Dems.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:46 PM
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8. Ok, I have no ideas how to search for that on their site.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:35 PM
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6. When the indictments start raining down
And no Democrats are named.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:36 PM
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7. I've read other reports that Hillary announced she was giving away her
Abramoff-tainted cash. The MSM's definitely working together to keep the Pugs propped up.
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:52 PM
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9. Send the reporter and his/her editor this list
and demand a retraction!

Donor: Abramoff, Jack A. & Pamela

Recipient Donor Total Cycle

Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela ($1,000) 2006
Eric Cantor (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $8,000 2004

Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles (R-Okla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2004

Rich PAC, Leadership PAC of Richard Pombo (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2004
Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2004

Arlen Specter (R-Pa) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2004
George W. Bush (R) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2004
John Ensign (R-Nev) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2004
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2004

Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert (R-Ill) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,500 2004

Charles H. Taylor (R-NC) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004
Chris Cannon (R-Utah) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004
Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004
Mark Foley (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004

Leadership PAC 2004, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004

Richard Pombo (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004
Senate Victory Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2004
Christopher S. 'Kit' Bond (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,500 2004
Curt Weldon (R-Pa) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Doug Ose (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Ernest J. Istook (R-Okla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Jim Bunning (R-Ky) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004
Tom Feeney (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2004

Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $10,000 2002
Friends of the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2002
Republican Party of New Jersey Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2002
Senate Victory Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $5,000 2002

Dan Burton (R-Ind) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $3,000 2002
Eric Cantor (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $3,000 2002
Suzanne Terrell (R-La) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $3,000 2002

American Liberty PAC, Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,500 2002

Rob Simmons (R-Conn) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,250 2002
Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
Connie Morella (R-Md) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
James M. Inhofe (R-Okla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
James M. Talent (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
John T. Doolittle (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
John Thune (R-SD) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2002
Bob Smith (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,240 2002
Bob Ney (R-Ohio) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
C. L. "Butch" Otter (R-Idaho) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Denny Rehberg (R-Mont) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Heather Wilson (R-NM) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
J. Randy Forbes (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Jack Kingston (R-Ga) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
James V. Hansen (R-Utah) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
John Cornyn (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of John Ensign (R-Nev) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Mike Ferguson (R-NJ) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Ralph Regula (R-Ohio) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Ric Keller (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002

Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002

Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Thad Cochran (R-Miss) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2002
Dave Camp (R-Mich) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2002
Phil Gingrey (R-Ga) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2002
Tom Young (R-Ala) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2002
Bill Janklow (R-SD) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $250 2002

Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $6,500 2000
Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2000

Tom DeLay (R-Texas) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $4,000 2000

Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC of Phil Crane (R-Ill) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,750 2000

Bob Ney (R-Ohio) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Craig Thomas (R-Wyo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Dan Burton (R-Ind) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Eric Cantor (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
George W. Bush (R) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
John Ashcroft (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
John T. Doolittle (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Spencer Abraham (R-Mich) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
William L. Gormley (R-NJ) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $2,000 2000
Bill McCollum (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Bill Redmond (R-NM) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Bob Riley (R-Ala) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
C. L. "Butch" Otter (R-Idaho) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Claude B. Hutchison Jr. (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Denny Rehberg (R-Mont) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
George Allen (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J. D. Hayworth (R-Ariz) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $1,000 2000
Paul Ryan (R-Wis) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $949 2000
Bob Smith (R-Fla) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $920 2000
Joe Pitts (R-Pa) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $894 2000
Charles H. Taylor (R-NC) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $750 2000
Bob Ehrlich (R-Md) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Ed Royce (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Jerry Weller (R-Ill) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Mark Emerson (R-Utah) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Tom Davis (R-Va) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Van Hilleary (R-Tenn) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $500 2000
Rick A. Lazio (R-NY) Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela $250 2000

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_donor.asp
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 09:51 PM
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13. Done. Anyone else ready to defend their values?
NGU.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:53 PM
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10. When will people reaslise that AP is to America what Xinhua is to China!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:55 PM
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11. Here it is, from FEC no such (D)s listed:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:59 PM
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12. Top Democrats need to call the talking heads "liars" to their faces.
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 07:59 PM by Dr Fate
Of course, they wont- the strategists who lost the last 3 elections will tell them that is "too agressive."

And the public will continue believe the liars, as usual...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 09:56 PM
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14. They won't? I guess you missed the sigh heard round the world...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:22 PM
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15. One DEM out of many with media access. I saw that & loved it too.
But that was several days ago. Where were the other DEMs backing up Dean and saying that on TV today and all the other days?

I'll agree with you that Dean showed us how it's done.

Which DEMs are on TV tonight following his lead?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:26 PM
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:08 AM
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17. One lone DEM and one 5 minute clip. And the word "liars" was never used.
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 12:16 AM by Dr Fate
And I said "DEMs" not "DEM"

I said "need to" as in NOW and in the coming days, not last week.

You would rather call me a liar than admit that one 5 minute exchange did nothing to stop the GOP lies.

I see where this is going- you would rather see me, the one pointing this out, as the problem, than ask why we dont have 10 DEMs on all the shows saying what Dean said-over and over and over-and perhaps using even stronger language.

Keep labeling me as the "liar" and see if it will stop the media from ignoring the truth.

Which DEMs are on TV tonight following his lead?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:27 AM
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:35 AM
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19. Bullshit - I stand by my statement 100%
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 12:43 AM by Dr Fate
My history???- tell us about my history- I've been fucking right about this every time. You would be standing in your chair and cheering and yelling "Smackdown!!!" if DEMs did the things that one can find in "my history" of posts.

Instead, you are resigned to make excuses for them and label me as the problem.

DUers who dont know me might gather from your comment about "my history" that I'm some kind of troll or somthing- nice tactic.

As I suggested, you would rather go after me than ask why DEMs are not on TV standing up to these fuckers and using blunt, strong language.

On EDIT: For the semantics police:

I mean "ask why DEMs are not CONTINUOUSLY AND REPEATEDLY NIGHT AFTER NIGHT on TV standing up to these fuckers and using blunt, strong language AND USING THE WORD LIE.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:07 AM
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20. You're the one who used the word "troll," not me. Nice tactic.
NGU.


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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:53 PM
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22. Dont blame me when your smear-posts are deleted by the mods.
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 01:03 PM by Dr Fate
You need to worry more about what Democrats are failing to do as opposed to worrying about me pointing that out.

Which DEMs are on TV this week following Deans lead? Which DEM has ever used that word against Bush (on TV)that you freely use against me?

You cant answer these things- instead you smear me.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:18 AM
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:00 PM
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23. Yes- I am the "liar"- DEMs are all over the TV today smacking down Bush!
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 01:25 PM by Dr Fate
Quick- turn on the TV- it's wonderful!!!

I'm so ashamed of my blatant lies- I said that Democrats (s- plural) need to be on TV calling Bush & the media "liars"- but you corrected me- anyone can turn on the TV today or watch clips from yesterday or the day before or the day before that and see that I made it all up-right?

Right?? And you will post all these transcripts to prove me a liar- right? Please- do it.


But seriously, my suggestion to you is to find a poster who knows less than you, and then pretend he is me. Then debate him. That way you can pretend you have actually gotten somthing right when you argue with me.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:36 PM
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24. Okay- now Reid is comparing DeLay to the mob- smack-down!
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 PM by Dr Fate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x128705

Now he needs to go on TV and say it. I know, I know-dont tell me, he has been banned from the Russert & Hardball programs or somthing.
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