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true_notes Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:16 AM
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A Humerous and Interesting Conversation on Religion
My primary debating conservative buddy and I were at it once again today, and this time it was all over what I said about Christianity.

Please folks, keep in mind I try to keep things in the humor zone when I talk with this guy, because he is ------>out here somewhere.

Me:Saw were Dean was kissing up to Falwell. Seems like he wants the presidency now, eh?

Him:Yeah, he needs the Christian base to even have a chance. I guess the Democrats are going to get Scientology's support this election.

Me:What is that supposed to mean?

Him:Nothing, you are just a bunch of loons like the Hollywood icons and all.

Me:Nah, but let me tell you something. Circa 2000 years ago, there was this man named Jesus, and he was preaching to all these rich and poor men about this big man upstairs that can save something called a soul. In order to do this, you must be dipped in magic water and risen to a new, and forbidding world. So, in fact the Democrats aren't getting the "loony" vote, but the Republicans are.

Him:So what you are saying now is that the Christian Religion is insane as opposed to Scientology.

Me:Yep, they are equally absurd and morally altered. Look at the similarities my pug friend. The soul in Scientology is a "Thetan", You never see God, nor Scientology's evil alien dude,Jesus is yesterday's Tom Cruise and people who have followed each religion in the early years are very secretive about it.

Him:I get your point, what does that have to with politics?

Me:Well in the far future after your party has destroyed all us Democrats, Scientology will be the dominant religion because all the good Christians will have been killed.

Him:So only Liberal Christians are good Christians?

Me:That's the way I see it friend......So, when are you gonna start making the switch to Scientology?

Him:Fuck You!

Me:Ha! So you aren't arguing the similarities in each religion's respective bullshit aisle in the market of life?

Him:Ok Ok, this is too deep. I've got to get back to work.
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That was very condensed, but not far from what was said.

I guess I win again, but then again I was just there to piss him off ;)

Take care
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:17 AM
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1. I like to get New Ager's panties in a wad by comparing them to Xtians
In general, I say, Christians hate their mortal bodies. (Pauline doctrine) They are full of sin and disease and cause people to lose their way to heaven. If a Xtian is good, if he mortifies his flesh and keeps it under control, then when he finally dies and goes to heaven he will be rewarded with a young new perfect body forever.

Now New Agers also hate their bodies, most particularly their colons which are full of disease and the accumulation of years of sin (read: grease and animal flesh and simple carbs) and cause people to lose their way to perfect health and balance. If a New Ager is good, if he mortifies his flesh with juice fasts, water fasts, high colonics, rabid exercise and keeps his appetities under control, he will finally gain his reward of a young perfect body forever.

Amen.

I've never met two groups of people who hate their bodies and their physical appetities more. Of course I haven't met everybody then, have I?

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:37 AM
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3. Depends on how you define "New Agers"
The reason I say that is there are a whole bunch of folks around my neck of the woods who are into colonics and juice fasts (I'm not one of them, btw)-and they are of all religions and political stripes. They are into this for their health-and most are in their 40s and 50s with some health issues. Don't think these folks so much hate their bodies as they are trying to figure out how to fix them.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:16 AM
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4. "Fix" them how?
Age is not a disease. It is a process.

If one is overweight or diabetic those are dis-eases. They can be remedied by diet and exercise. Those are things that can be "fixed".

Creaky joints and sagging flesh happen to us all and are normal, natural occurances.

I am not against healthy living. But the obsession with staying young and healthy when one hits middle age does not speak of love for the body, but a fear of degeneration.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:46 AM
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6. These folks have some serious health problems
I don't think they are doing it to try and recapture their youth.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:19 AM
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5. many new agers are christians
when i was active in the new age i don't recall meeting any actual new agers into high colonics and all that but i don't live in california so maybe it happens out there, i certainly heard enough abt it thru the grapevine
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:34 AM
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2. As a believer, I would have said it this way
Interesting that you say you are a Christian. About 2000 years ago there was a rabbi who preached about sharing with the poor, not making a show of your faith, loving your enemies and forgiving those who have done you wrong. He even said the affairs of God should be seperated from the affairs of state. Progressive Christians I know follow these teachings-why aren't you and the GOP?
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