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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:24 PM
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In open split with *, top US conservative calls for independent movement
Edited on Sun May-21-06 02:24 PM by tocqueville
by Maxim Kniazkov
Sun May 21, 6:13 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The patriarch of US conservatives has urged his followers to halt their financial support of the Republican Party and start an independent movement, signaling a major political shift that could result in heavy losses for the US ruling party in upcoming elections.

Richard Viguerie, who was instrumental in cementing the winning coalitions behind Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George W. Bush in 2000, declared that conservatives were "downright fed up" with both the president and Republican-controlled Congress.

"At the very least, conservatives must stop funding the Republican National Committee and other party groups," Viguerie wrote in a lengthy essay in The Washington Post Sunday.

He suggested conservatives "redirect their anger into building a third force," which he defined as a movement independent of any party, and laying the groundwork for the 2008 election campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060521/wl_afp/usvotepoliticsconservatives_060521100821
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:25 PM
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1. This Summer and Fall are going to be very interesting......
:popcorn:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:25 PM
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2. Oh, I like this...
A deep schism in the Repug party would be very good news.
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:34 PM
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7. Indeed - this is very good news
Edited on Sun May-21-06 02:35 PM by LiberalPartisan
A "conservative" (radical right wing) 3rd party is not a viable option to gain a majority. That leaves moderate Republicans to retake their party and hopefully work with Dems to actually govern for the MAJORITY.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:28 PM
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3. OMG
That's terrible!
NOT:sarcasm:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:28 PM
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Well the divorce papers have been filed
The question is how they didn't know their partner and his goons. Too late to wash hands guys - you created this mess for the entire planet.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:28 PM
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4. This is good news....and the next is rove is indictment ..
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:30 PM
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5. vote this up, way up...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:32 PM
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6. I read it. They will drink the Kool-Aid, they'll fall for Rove's tactics.
That one-third will turn out like Pavlov's dogs as soon as Rove breaks out gay marriage and you will die without Bush's protection crap. And Bush's "Pioneers," the wealthy amoral crowd, will fund it all, so long as Bush provides them with tax cuts, cheap immigrant labor and protection against fraud investigation. That is the way it is. Gimme a break; anybody who gets their hopes up from that scum of the earth Richard Viguerie needs a spine transplant. This article is crap, and planted to throw us off. It's BS, and Viguerie has never been anything but.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:39 PM
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11. Throw us off from WHAT?
It doesn't change my strategies one iota. But if it gets cons to do some re-thinking, it can't hurt.

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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:35 PM
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8. It's probably all talk
Who would the candidate be? If there is a candidate, then the movement has some validity. I have no idea who the face of this movement would be. Buchanan won't do it again.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:35 PM
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9. DLC.. Progressive.. Fiscal conservative.. Bible-thumping Snake-handlers
Edited on Sun May-21-06 02:47 PM by SoCalDem
We could end up with FOUR parties..

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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:36 PM
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10. next question : is the same going to happen among Dems ?
imagine 4 presidential contenders fighting for power....

from neocon right to progressive left... over classical conservative and centrist democrat...

that would be something....
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:45 PM
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12. What kind of country DO these people invision??
Somebody help me out here.

Is this about fiscal responsibility?

Is it about being in denial that SOME people are gay?

Is it about Roe not having been overturned YET?

Are the for the war or against it?
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:04 PM
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13. here is Richard A. Viguerie standpoint
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/19/AR2006051901770.html?sub=AR

The main cause of conservatives' anger with Bush is this: He talked like a conservative to win our votes but never governed like a conservative.

For all of conservatives' patience, we've been rewarded with the botched Hurricane Katrina response, headed by an unqualified director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which proved that the government isn't ready for the next disaster. We've been rewarded with an amnesty plan for illegal immigrants. We've been rewarded with a war in Iraq that drags on because of the failure to provide adequate resources at the beginning, and with exactly the sort of "nation-building" that Candidate Bush said he opposed.

Republicans in Congress and at the White House seem oblivious to the rising threat of communist China and of Vladimir Putin's Russia. Despite the temporary appointment of conservative John R. Bolton as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, the current GOP leadership keeps shoveling money to the world body despite its refusal to change.

As for the Supreme Court, Bush's failed nomination of Miers, his personal lawyer, represented the breaking of what we took as an explicit promise to appoint more Antonin Scalias and Clarence Thomases, and it was an inexcusable act of cronyism.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:07 PM
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14. GOOD!!
Let them go ahead and start a third party and watch what an important role it will play in the upcoming elections. LOL
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