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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:50 AM
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FBI to get power to veto consumer software that lacks "back door"
http://news.com.com/2061-10804_3-5884130.html?part=rss&... :

FBI to get veto power over PC software?
September 27, 2005 11:37 AM PDT

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No, really. In an obscure "policy" document released around 9 p.m. ET last Friday, the FCC announced this remarkable decision.

According to the three-page document, to preserve the openness that characterizes today's Internet, "consumers are entitled to run applications and use services of their choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement." Read the last seven words again.

The FCC didn't offer much in the way of clarification. But the clearest reading of the pronouncement is that some unelected bureaucrats at the commission have decreeed that Americans don't have the right to use software such as Skype or PGPfone if it doesn't support mandatory backdoors for wiretapping. (That interpretation was confirmed by an FCC spokesman on Monday, who asked not to be identified by name. Also, the announcement came at the same time as the FCC posted its wiretapping rules for Internet telephony.)

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. . . where federal law states that it is the policy of the United States to preserve a free market for Internet services "unfettered by federal or state regulation," the bureaucrats have adroitly interpreted that to mean precisely the opposite of Congress said. Ain't that clever?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:59 AM
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1. I wanted to reply to this...
But there's a mean looking man in a brown shirt knocking on the door. Gotta go...
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:00 AM
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2. Real clever. I'm amazed at how many ways this government
has figured out how to screw us over. Thanks for some more good news....LOL. K & R-ing.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:02 AM
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3. If people want to understand this
Edited on Mon May-22-06 02:02 AM by bananas
they should do some research on "promis" and "postel".
These are two unrelated cases.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:46 AM
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4. Are we no longer allowed to whisper, either? No communication allowed
between "prisoners".

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:13 AM
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5. Fuck 'em
It appears we won't stop them listening. Much as I condemn the infringement of my rights, I'm not about to let these un-American bastards stop me from saying what I want, when and where I want. And I say Bush** is a fucking dictator in charge of a Gang of Pricks (GOP) who do nothing but lie and murder to advance their imperial wet-dreams. Heil Bush**! Come and get me, mother fuckers, I don't care, the Bush** regime will NEVER kill the American Dream in my heart...I guarantee when I die it'll be as a true American, while you'll go down in history as loathed traitors to this country and everything honest and good it once stood for!!
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:26 AM
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6. So, for the benefit of law enforcement....
we will be required to use software specifically designed to be vulnerable to hackers and viruses?

Yeah, that's a good idea. :sarcasm:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:03 AM
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7. Seems like the GOP government wants to put the American software industry
out of buisness. How is any American software going to be able to be sold overseas if back doors are required? How is any American software going to be able to compete with foreign software that doesn't require back doors?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:47 AM
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8. Yet another reason to go open source. nt
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:30 AM
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9. C'mon DU. Let's help our G men and women.
Why not just CC: every communication we post.
In fact, to show we are patriots lets send the 23 million
posts from the archives and go from their.

Confused though. I thought NSA was busy with our
personal communications.

What if FBI is trying to listen and gets a busy signal
because NSA is already trying to listening and can't
because Homeland Security dialed in first?
Oh shit oh dear.

Oh yeah:
:patriot:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:14 AM
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10. ehm, kick
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:25 AM
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11. I just love the police state in the morning, don't you?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:30 AM
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12. Do right wingers like this too?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:09 AM
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13. As long as it's repubs doing the spying, they are OK. I usually let them
ramble on a bit with their "I've got nothing to hide", then ask them if they'll feel the same way when a democrat is elected.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:36 PM
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14. Every time one of those idiots says...
..."if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear," I have this overpowering urge to walk into their bedrooms and empty out their sock drawer on the living room floor.

Nothing to hide, indeed.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:57 PM
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15. Well then, don't be a "consumer."
Whooooooooooshhhhhhhh.

That's the sound of the life getting sucked out of the U.S. software industry.

The future belongs to China and India, and computer nerds writing free software in Europe will blow away whatever's left of us.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:40 PM
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16. K & R - tallk about "under the radar" - IS there radar any more? n/t
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 12:50 AM
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17. Orwell's 1984---our 2006. Oh, protect me, Big Brother. nt.
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